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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page with a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area and then promoted into the Queue. To update this page, purge it.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
February 28 1 1
March 31 1 1
April 5 1
April 9 1 1
April 13 1
April 14 3
April 15 1
April 17 1
April 18 4 4
April 19 2 1
April 20 2
April 21 3 1
April 23 1 1
April 24 6 5
April 25 6 3
April 26 8 3
April 27 8 5
April 28 11 8
April 29 10 4
April 30 15 9
May 1 10 7
May 2 8 2
May 3 5 4
May 4 7 4
May 5 9 5
May 6 12 7
May 7 11 7
May 8 11 3
May 9 11 4
May 10 14 6
May 11 6 4
May 12 11 4
May 13 6 3
May 14 10 5
May 15 6 3
May 16 8 2
May 17 1
Total 232 117
Last updated 01:53, 17 May 2024 UTC
Current time is 02:41, 17 May 2024 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators[edit]

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing. Further information can be found at the supplementary guidelines.

Nominate an article

Frequently asked questions[edit]

How do I write an interesting hook?

Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.

When will my nomination be reviewed?

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first, it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions below).

Where is my hook?

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Instructions for reviewers[edit]

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING  :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.
  • After the nomination is approved, a bot will automatically list the nomination page on Template talk:Did you know/Approved.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Advanced procedures[edit]

How to promote an accepted hook[edit]

At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a prep area
Check list for nomination review completeness
  1. Select a hook from the approved nominations page that has one of these ticks at the bottom post: .
  2. Check to make sure basic review requirements were completed.
    • Any outstanding issue following needs to be addressed before promoting.
  3. Check the article history for any substantive changes since it was nominated or reviewed.
  4. Images for the lead slot must be freely licensed. Fair-use images are not permitted. Images loaded on Commons that appear on the Main Page are automatically protected by KrinkleBot.
  5. Hook must be stated in both the article and source (which must be cited at the end of the article sentence where stated).
  6. Hook should make sense grammatically.
  7. Try to vary subject matters within each prep area.
  8. Try to select a funny, quirky or otherwise upbeat hook for the last or bottom hook in the set.
Steps to add a hook to prep
  • In one tab, open the nomination page of the hook you want to promote.
  • In a second tab, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.

Wanna skip all this fuss? Install WP:PSHAW instead! Does most of the heavy lifting for ya :)

  1. For hooks held for specific dates, refer to "Local update times" section on DYK Queue.
    • Completed Prep area number sets will be promoted by an administrator to corresponding Queue number.
  2. Copy and paste the hook into a chosen slot.
    • Make sure there's a space between ... and that, and a ? at the end.
    • Check that there's a bold link to the article.
  3. If it's the lead (first) hook, paste the image where indicated at the top of the template.
  4. Copy and paste ALL the credit information (the {{DYKmake}} and {{DYKnom}} templates) at the bottom
  5. Check your work in the prep's Preview mode.
    • At the bottom under "Credits", to the right of each article should have the link "View nom subpage" ; if not, a subpage parameter will need to be added to the DYKmake.
  6. Save the Prep page.
Closing the DYK nomination page
  1. At the upper left
    • Change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • Change |passed= to |passed=yes
  2. At the bottom
    • Just above the line containing

      }}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->

      insert a new, separate line containing one of the following:
      To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
      To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
      To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
      To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
      To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
      To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
      To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]
    • Also paste the same thing into the edit summary.
  3. Check in Preview mode. Make sure everything is against a pale blue background (nothing outside) and there are no stray characters, like }}, at the top or bottom.
  4. Save.

For more information, please see T:TDYK#How to promote an accepted hook.

Handy copy sources:

  • To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]

How to remove a rejected hook[edit]

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations[edit]

Older nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on April 5[edit]

Tachikawa Sumito

  • ... that in a memorial tribute to Tachikawa Sumito, a former colleague said she did "not think there will ever be another [Japanese singer] to surpass him"? Source: 立川清登さんの思い出 [Memories of Mr. Tachikawa Sumito], p. 1
    • ALT1: ... that in 1976, Tachikawa Sumito made a hit cover of a song he first discovered when a housewife called into his radio show requesting to hear a version of it? Source: 立川清登 [Tachikawa Sumito], p. 59; [1]
    • ALT2: ... that Tachikawa Sumito became a household name in Japan thanks to his 1961 recording of "My Grandfather's Clock"? Source: [2]
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: QPQ coming soon.
Created by CurryTime7-24 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 45 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

CurryTime7-24 (talk) 04:42, 5 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • CurryTime7-24 this nomination was not properly transluded to WP:DYKN, which is why it has gone unreviewed. As the nomination was made during the unreviewed backlog mode, you need to provide two QPQs within the next week. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:54, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll take this one when I see two QPQs.--Launchballer 22:36, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on April 13[edit]

Sitdown strike

Sitdown strikers in the 1937 General Motors strike in Flint Michigan
Sitdown strikers in the 1937 General Motors strike in Flint Michigan
  • ... that there were 583 sitdown strikes in the United States from 1936 to 1939, affecting over a half-million workers? Source:
  • US Department of Labor, Division of Industrial Relations (May 1939). "Analysis of Strikes in 1938". Monthly Labor Review: Table 16.
  • US Department of Labor, Division of Industrial Relations (May 1940). "Strikes in 1939". Monthly Labor Review: 28-29.

Source 1 states: "The number of sit-down strikes in 1936, 1937, and 1938 by months, with the number' of workers involved, is given in table 16."

Table 16 lists the same numbers of strikes given in source 2 below. It lists workers involved as follows: 1936: 87,817 1937: 398,117 1938: 28,749

Source 2 states: "In 1936 there were 48 so-called sit-down strikes. In 1937 the number increased to 477, but by 1938 they decreased to 52. There were only 6 strikes during 1939 in which all or part of the strikers remained at their workplaces for one or more days after ceasing work. he number of workers idle in connection with these 6 strikes was 3,416, although the number participating in the sit-down or stay-in feature is not known."

This sentence involves a very encyclopedic form of synthesis in that it adds numbers from two consecutive studies by the same source. Similar synthesis, but without inclusion of the latter number appears in Sidney Fine's book Sitdown, cited in the article.

5x expanded by Carwil (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Carwil (talk) 16:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • QPQ not needed, expansion is recent and article is long enough. Hook is properly sourced. However, Earwig detected a 43.2% similarity. Before I pass this nom, I think it would be suitable to trim down some quotes, if possible. Davest3r08 >:3 (talk) 22:33, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've reviewed the Earwig similarity report, which highlights passages that are either in quotes or comprise part of citations (including the journal name and another cited article). The longest passage is the summary of the Matignon Agreement, a quotation I don't think I can improve upon. I've revised the article to reduce the amount of material directly quoted from Torigian and from Adamic, but keep Adamic's longer definition and Torigian's POV that the mid-1930s strikes were a distinct phase of using the tactic. Let me know whether you think these changes sufficiently reduce the reliance of direct quotations.--Carwil (talk) 13:29, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
FYI, here's the Earwig similarity report with bibliography temporarily removed.
Fair rationale. Passing nomination. LunaEcplise (for the record I'm Davest3r08) (talk) 20:33, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Carwil, LunaEclipse, AirshipJungleman29, and RoySmith: - given that there was no definite resolution to the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Sitdown strike, I'm reopening this. A couple of issues were raised regarding the state of the article, and also whether the figures from the Dept. of Labor should be given in Wikivoice.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:47, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Upon additional consideration, I'm fine with the wikivoice thing. RoySmith (talk) 21:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Replying here as I'm traveling and on mobile only: Hmm... I'm not sure this makes sense as a general principle for DYK hooks (in voice sourcing for official statistics), though I'm not adverse to a "by official counts" phrase being added. There's no reason to suspect that the government counted any non-existent strikes and political reasons to suspect that this government attempted to both be complete in its count and to accurately report both the rise and fall of the phenomenon in its counts. Unintended errors of categorization could fall in both ways. But this seems like the kind of fact routinely sourced in a footnote in a lead section or DYK. - - User:Carwil
  • Alt0a ... that by official counts there were 583 sitdown strikes in the United States from 1936 to 1939, affecting over a half-million workers?
  • Alt0b ... that according to the U.S. Department of Labor there were 583 sitdown strikes in the United States from 1936 to 1939, affecting over a half-million workers?
--evrik (talk) 18:15, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 14[edit]

Cosmic Ray (film)

5x expanded by Hinnk (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 39 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

hinnk (talk) 00:33, 15 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • (Not a review) It looks like the book is specifically saying that it's the first short film to put a pop song over "silenced clips" (found footage?), not that it was the first short film ever to have a pop song as its entire soundtrack. The latter definition covers an awful lot of musical short films going back to the 1920s. DigitalIceAge (talk) 03:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Good catch, it was definitely nagging me how to accurately summarize that claim without basically quoting it directly. I think there were some similar claims made in other sources, so I'm gonna look through those again and see what the best way to approach that would be. As a fallback, there's the quote about the film "presenting the eyes for Ray Charles". hinnk (talk) 19:17, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • ALT1: ... that Bruce Conner's Cosmic Ray has been recognized as the first music video? Source: [3][4]
      • ALT2: Bruxton (talk) 00:13, 3 May 2024 (UTC)... that Bruce Conner conceived of his short film Cosmic Ray as "presenting the eyes" for blind musician Ray Charles? Source: Looking for Bruce Conner: "I felt that I was, in a way, presenting the eyes for Ray Charles, who is a blind musician…I was supplying his vision." hinnk (talk) 22:21, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer still needed. Z1720 (talk) 13:55, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • I like ALT1 as it is confirmed, interesting, in the article and supported with RS including the Boston Globe. The article is a 5x expansion so qualifies. The article has the correct inline citations and it is neutral. NOqpq required and Earwig alerts at 35% to a long quote. Bruxton (talk) 00:13, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@@Hinnk, RoySmith, Bruxton, AirshipJungleman29, and DigitalIceAge: per discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Cosmic_Ray_(film), I've reopened this as I think there is too much doubt about the assertion of it being the first music video... as DigitalIceAge suggested, "this is a fringe view and too controversial to run as a hook". Either the hook should be strongly nuanced, or something else developed.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(also ping Hinnk as above had a typo)  — Amakuru (talk) 22:44, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@RoySmith: First are interesting, like The first woman named to the Blue Angels as F/A-18 demonstration pilot Blue Angel fighter pilot Amanda Lee. Bruxton (talk) 23:14, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I was being (only partially) sarcastic :-) But, that's a good example of a first that's probably OK to use. There's a small finite set of people who have been Blue Angle pilots. And an even smaller subset of them are women. So it's easy to do an exhaustive search of all women blue angel pilots and see who was first. Likewise, we had a hook recently about some member of the British royal family being the first to fly in a helicopter. There's a very small set of people who are in the British royal family and everything they do is noted. And helicopters have only existed for a relatively short amount of time. So it's really unlikely somebody will come up with some other royal who flew in a helicopter earlier. It's the open-ended sets like short films or WW-II fighter pilots where declaring somebody or something to be "first" gets dicey. RoySmith (talk) 23:22, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Democratic Yemeni Union of Peasants

October 7, 1986 congress of the Democratic Yemeni Union of Peasants
October 7, 1986 congress of the Democratic Yemeni Union of Peasants
Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 377 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Soman (talk) 15:45, 14 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment. Hi User:Soman - thanks for your work on the article. Any idea about the ultimate fate of the organisation – did it last until Yemeni unification in 1990? ITBF (talk) 10:42, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I can't find anything definitive, I would have presumed its history ended with unification in 1990. Unlike youth organization and trade unions that continued post unification, it appears that Afid was comparatively weaker and would not have endured without state patronage. But looking here https://www.adengad.net/news/693324 and https://www.addalinews.com/Print/16352 there are mentions of a Peasants Union in the Southern movement... unsure if there is any organizational connection. For the purpose of this article I think we can end the article history with 1990 for now, though. --Soman (talk) 11:10, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New reviewer needed. Z1720 (talk) 13:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Soman: I've given this a review. I'm ready to pass this, but I'm blah on the hook. Do you have any others? Also, you need to anser the question about when it closed, or if it still exists. --evrik (talk) 18:16, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'd say that the connection between the national constitution and a civil society organization is the most hookworthy factoid here. The only other option I see would the arrest of the chairman in 1978 or the cooperation agreements with East Germany. As per the closure of the organization, I don't have any source of an exact date of disbanding and it is quite likely that there was no official or formalized disbanding. When South Yemen ceased to exist, presumably the organization went quietly defunct. --Soman (talk) 10:43, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Can you propose some alt hooks? Also work into the piece that, "it is quite likely that there was no official or formalized disbanding. When South Yemen ceased to exist, presumably the organization went quietly defunct." --evrik (talk) 15:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • I can't add speculation in the article mainspace, without any reference. I think it is clear from context that the organization ceased to function at some point around Yemeni unification, but the reader will have to connect the dots. --Soman (talk) 22:19, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
          • The hook is bleh, and the article is incomplete without something that says how the group ended. Would you like another reviewer? --evrik (talk) 02:27, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cora Babbitt Johnson

  • ... that early environmentalists like Cora Babbitt Johnson almost prevented the carving of Mount Rushmore? Source: Smith, Rex Alan (January 1, 1985). The Carving of Mount Rushmore. New York City: Abbeville Press. pp. chapter 2 and chapter 5; Fite, Gilbert Courtland (1952). Mount Rushmore. Internet Archive. Norman : University of Oklahoma Press; Merritt, Riley (2024-04-01). "Borglum's Horse Flies: The Early Opposition to Mount Rushmore". Honors College Theses.
    • Reviewed:
5x expanded by Borg Axoim (talk) and Crunchydillpickle (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Borg Axoim (talk) 16:27, 14 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The nominated article has one paragraph without a citation. The uncited paragraph could be supported in part by pages 11 and 121 of Mount Rushmore by Gilbert C. Fite, it talks about the Hot Springs Star's editorial stance. https://archive.org/details/mountrushmore00univ/page/121 I also suggest that an alternate wording like "that early environmentalists like Cora Babbitt Johnson almost prevented..." rather than the current wording. Update:Thanks to Mary Mark Ockerbloom for working on the reference problems on the article. Do either of the two nominators, Borg Axoim or Crunchydillpickle, have any final thoughts or last minute suggestions? 🌿MtBotany (talk) 03:52, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • No further comments, but I think we're good to go. Letting Borg Axoim and Crunchydillpickle know that its approved. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 23:04, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Borg Axoim, @Crunchydillpickle and @MtBotany Where does the wiki article state that the carving of Mount Rushmore was "almost prevented?" Unless there's genuine evidence from the cited source that the project was almost going to be shut down (if so, that should be added in), letters of opposition, protests, and halts do not equal "preventions." This needs to be addressed first before promotion. PrimalMustelid (talk) 19:46, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • You're right, PrimalMustelid sloppy reviewing on my part. One of the project's promotors (Robinson) said that her editorials against the project, "might produce a real disaster." The strongest that could be said is something like "environmentalists delayed the carving of Mount Rushmore" and I don't know that such as statement would be surprising/interesting. If Borg Axoim or Crunckydillpickle are interested in a rewrite of the hook there is a lot of support for something like "the artist who carved Mt. Rushmore called Cora Johnson and other environmentalists opponents "horseflies"." 🌿MtBotany (talk) 17:45, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • PrimalMustelid and MtBotany, you're right that the wording may not be ideal. Two of the sources (Fite and Merritt) mention how Cora Babbitt Johnson swayed the South Dakota governor against the project and that he delayed the project severely. Given that, I think it would be fair to say something like "Cora Babbitt Johnson and other environmentalists lobbied South Dakota governor Carl Gunderson, who halted the Mount Rushmore project until the end of his term". Would that be interesting enough? It could still use some rewriting. User:Borg_Axoim 7:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on April 15[edit]

Roman roads in Judaea

Created by Owenglyndur (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Owenglyndur (talk) 07:41, 17 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: This nomination still needs work. As it's your first nomination, I'm happy to give you time to improve this. But, at minimum, you need to settle on an interesting hook with a reliable source that you can clearly cite for it. Unsourced sections need to either be removed, or reliable sources cited inline with them. Grnrchst (talk) 13:43, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Suggestion: if you find a source for current use of the same routes, that might be interesting (enough)? FortunateSons (talk) 17:56, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Marking as rejected due to a lack of response from Owenglyndur. If they do not respond in the next few days, this can be closed as rejected. Z1720 (talk) 15:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Z1720, it appears that Owenglyndur responded to your original post on their talk page on 5 May rather than here, and made a number of edits to the article that same day. Do issues remain? Also pinging original reviewer Grnrchst. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:34, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd be ok with passing this review now, as the biggest issues with the article and hook have been sufficiently addressed. There's still some bits that lack inline citations, but some of them make clear what they're citing in the text and others are rather minor things in larger paragraphs that contain inline citations elsewhere. --Grnrchst (talk) 08:11, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for your comments i will work on them. I will let you know once its ready. So we will be able to publish the DYK then? Owenglyndur (talk) 07:42, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hook should be a Monty Python reference imo. (t · c) buidhe 03:19, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 17[edit]

Obonga-Ottertooth Provincial Park

Created by P199 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 36 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

P 1 9 9   19:22, 18 April 2024 (UTC). General eligibility:[reply]

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: --evrik (talk) 17:55, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • @P199 and Evrik: I don't feel that comfortable with including a promotional quote from the park's manager on the main page. What else is there? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:08, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • What if we change the sentence to this, "The canoe route through the Ottertooth Creek canyon [has been described as] especially difficult and seldom travelled, but rewarding for its "unusual and spectacular scenery of rapids, waterfalls, talus boulders and steep canyons."? There are few independent sources. --evrik (talk) 15:49, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • This park is notable. I also think the hook is fine as written with the current sourcing. I'm struggling to find a solution that makes you happy. --evrik (talk) 17:34, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agree with Evrik. There are tons of sources, just not scholarly/academic ones (obviously, I don't want to use blogs and travel accounts). But an official government-issued work (i.e. Reference #3) should be more than acceptable. Furthermore note that this is not a marketing brochure or some other promotional material. So, if they say that the route "presents the canoeist with severe travel obstacles and minimal campsites" and "one is rewarded with unusual and spectacular scenery...", then that is rather factual and authoritative. It should not cause such trepidation... -- P 1 9 9   17:49, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @AirshipJungleman29: The more I think about it, your hesitation to use ALT1 (or original hook for that matter) is unwarranted. The source is not a trivial travel blog or promo piece, but an authoritative government document, which clearly is a WP:RS. Therefore ALT1 should be more than acceptable. If you still don't think so, we should seek a 4th opinion. FWIW, DYK regularly has POV quotes in the hook. -- P 1 9 9   17:51, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • No worries, perhaps this is just me being overly cautious. In any case, DYK has a few active promoters aside from me, so I'm sure we'll get another opinion sooner rather than later. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:00, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I too would question the dueness of the park's manager singing its praises.--Launchballer 21:42, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Launchballer, this is a reputable government source describing an aspect of the park. @P199: It may be easier to just write a new hook. I'd offer one, but then I can't approve it.--evrik (talk) 22:27, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 19[edit]

Georgi Romanov

  • Reviewed:
Created by Blaylockjam10 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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Blaylockjam10 (talk) 23:50, 26 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Bruxton: It’s under “Regular Season (Complete Stats)”. It looks like it may only be visible on a computer. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 11:33, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like I need a premium membership to view. I will leave this to another reviewer. Bruxton (talk) 04:02, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If "S TEAM LEAGUE GP GD GAA SV% GA SV SO W-L-T TOI" and "2022-23 Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg KHL 1 4 - - - - 0 0-0-1 0:00" means what I think it means, then a) you don't need a premium membership to view and b) I think the hook checks out with the source, depending on what "W-L-T" means, although I haven't yet looked at the article. I'm a bit worried about the phrases "submit stats/facts" and "edit profile" I found on the source - what makes it reliable?--Launchballer 11:57, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Launchballer I saw the same, which made me feel like it was a contributor site. Honestly I was just lost on that page. I think W is win L is loss and T is tie. It is a clever hook which drew me to the nomination, but then I found myself lost for a half hour clicking on pull down menus until I got to a paywall. @BeanieFan11: may be able to help. Bruxton (talk) 14:55, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not seeing the TOI part of the Elite Prospects link but based on how he played in the game that would make sense. NHL says that he was the goaltender for only the shootout portion in his only game, which would mean that he "officially" had zero minutes since the shootout isn't timed. (Also, I've come across Elite Prospects a number of times – they seem pretty reliable (don't think I've seen an incorrect stat, although I've only used them in writing ~10 hockey articles) and seem to have a staff – also cited ~20,000 times). I'd say it's good for approving as long as the article itself is fine. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:08, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Blaylockjam10 I located the minutes played after being guided. Earwig determined that there is some minor WP:CLOP which needs to be addressed. Also probably not a DYK issue, but consider that we probably do not need a section for three words - it should be combined somewhere. Also the lead should introduce/summarize more of the article; right now it is a single sentence. The hook is interesting and the article is neutral with the correct inline citations. Created on April 19 nominated April 26 so the article is new enough and with 2344 the article is long enough. Bruxton (talk) 18:52, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on April 20[edit]

Le Touquet

5x expanded by Szmenderowiecki (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

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Szmenderowiecki (talk) 16:38, 19 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • expanded recently enough; article is well-written and well-sourced. In my opinion ALT2 is by far the most interesting hook. Elli (talk | contribs) 04:14, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I pulled this just before the main page. Needs a new hook. Schwede66 02:32, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Per my comments there, I've suggested a modified version of ALT2 as ALT3 that's in line with the sourcing. Very sorry for not catching the issue with the wording. Elli (talk | contribs) 03:58, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The city hall's page says Ce sont au total 92745 mines et engins explosifs qui sont retrouvés et désamorcés sur le territoire de la commune., so it's mines and explosive devices. Saitzek tells this 137950 mines faisaient du Touquet selon un journal local "la ville la plus minee de France"1. Cependant, l'accès à la plage est autorisé dès la Pentecôte de 1945 et Le Touquet fut la première plage minée à ouvrir de nouveau son accès aux baigneurs. So we can say mines, explosive devices, I thought bombs could fall under the explosive devices category. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 21:08, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rhynchocyon

  • ... that a new subspecies of giant sengi was discovered in 2021? Source: "Despite the pelage differences, initial DNA comparisons found it nearly identical to R. chrysopygus. A later DNA comparison supported a designation of a new subspecies, Rhynchocyon chrysopygus mandelai as it diverges in pelage and is allopatric to R. chrysopygus (Agwanda et al. 2021)."
  • ALT1 ... that a new subspecies of giant sengi was discovered in 2021 in Kenya? Source: "Despite the pelage differences, initial DNA comparisons found it nearly identical to R. chrysopygus. A later DNA comparison supported a designation of a new subspecies, Rhynchocyon chrysopygus mandelai as it diverges in pelage and is allopatric to R. chrysopygus (Agwanda et al. 2021)."
  • ALT2 ... that a new Golden-rumped sengi subspecies (Rhynchocyon) was discovered in in Kenya? Source: "Despite the pelage differences, initial DNA comparisons found it nearly identical to R. chrysopygus. A later DNA comparison supported a designation of a new subspecies, Rhynchocyon chrysopygus mandelai as it diverges in pelage and is allopatric to R. chrysopygus (Agwanda et al. 2021)."
  • ALT3 ... that a new subspecies of the giant Golden-rumped sengi was discovered in 2021? Source: "Despite the pelage differences, initial DNA comparisons found it nearly identical to R. chrysopygus. A later DNA comparison supported a designation of a new subspecies, Rhynchocyon chrysopygus mandelai as it diverges in pelage and is allopatric to R. chrysopygus (Agwanda et al. 2021)."
    • Reviewed:
5x expanded by Azcolvin429 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

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Andrew Z. Colvin • Talk 02:53, 20 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Date, size, expansion, hook, refs, QPQ, copyvio spotcheck, all GTG. Minor disclaimer: the prose script I use does not count tables and bulleted lists, and without them I see only ~2.5-3x expansion. But there is a new large table (with some advanced features) and a new list, so I am AGFing the 5x claim. PS. I added a single citation needed request to one sentence - I ask the nom to comment here on whether it has been addressed. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reference added! And yes, it was not massively expanded, however I am working on more sections in the conservation section today. Thank you for the comments. Andrew Z. Colvin • Talk 22:55, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not happy with 'recently'; hooks must not be likely to change.--Launchballer 17:41, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Azcolvin429: Another issue with recently is that it's relative to the field but if that's unclear, it could give folks a misleading impression. 2008/7 is recent for the discovery of species, but not recent in other ways. Back in 2007, you could pull your Blackberry out of your ombré jeans and text your friends to meet you at Blockbuster Video so you all could rent a DVD to play on your PS2. Some people could read the hook as meaning that it was discovered earlier this year. I thought some of the reproduction information cited to Rathbun was interesting, including that they're monogamous but spend little time together and the quick development of the offspring, "mall versions of adults and are able to run swiftly within an hour of birth". Good luck, whichever way you go, Rjjiii (talk) 06:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Azcolvin429 and Piotrus: have you seen the above? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
AirshipJungleman29, Fair point, I would be happy to review alternate hooks, as on second thought the current one is also not very interesting. Could of course just change 'recently' to a year and move on, accepting that it won't be very clickable. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know it is not super interesting, its just a little factoid and I expanded the article significantly so figured it would be useful. I initally avoided the year as it is not super recent, but it was not on Wikipedia until I wrote about it and updated corresponding phylogenies and distributions. I should clarify that the expanded article is just the genus. The new subspecies is Rhynchocyon chrysopygus mandelai and is mentioned in the article as well as given a section titled "Kenya subspecies". Maybe the hook should be more specific? Though I wanted to avoid being too technical. I added a few alts. Andrew Z. Colvin • Talk 06:39, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 21[edit]

The Sign (Bluey)

  • ... that through a retelling of a tale from the ancient Huainanzi, Chinese philosophy is referenced in the Bluey special "The Sign"? Source: Glassman, Julia (2024-04-16). "How Bluey's 'The Sign' Uses an Ancient Parable to Tell a Wonderfully Complex Story". The Mary Sue. Retrieved 2024-04-21.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Horvat ’Eqed
    • Comment: By far my finest hour at AFC yet. The buzz and anticipation (and spoilers!) at r/Bluey on the eve of its U.S. release (the evening before, more like) compelled me to give this a shot at you-know-where--well after its original ABC airing, and mere minutes after its Disney+ bow; helps that I, an occasional but devoted viewer of the Heelers and company, actually watched along with my niece (via tablet) on that very day. It's not every season--or series (in that case)--you get to see WP coverage of an animated kidvid episode outside Nicktoons, Cartoon Network, and occasional in-house-Disney territory. (I speak from previous experience, as my early-era attempts at Care Bears episode articles ultimately went nowhere; such has been the fate of many recaps devoted to older shows in that demographic.)
      Not to mention TV Tropes and Know Your Meme had their own pages on this topic while ours was in dance draft mode!
      By the way, an episode like "The Sign" actually speaks volumes to yours truly, a former Connecticut resident (and animation lover--and immigrant from the Commonwealth of Dominica) who had to move to Central Florida seven years ago on account of his male superior's job change. (Shared that same memory to the niece.)
      Many thanks to the others who helped me along the way this past week:
May we meet each other again in the next few months en route to my long-coveted Four Award--for real life (which I originally planned to reserve for Ain't Burned All the Bright last August). No matter what happens next--good or bad...
"We'll see."
Moved to mainspace by Slgrandson (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

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Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 07:20, 21 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Not sure what the comments above about the link meant. Not thrilled with the hook. It's somewhat wordy. Also, the word Huainanzi is not in the article. Can we get some ALTs? --evrik (talk) 18:46, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just restored the Huainanzi part. I'll determine what'll pass for an ALT any hour from now. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 19:47, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • someone please review the hooks. --evrik (talk) 17:36, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SIgrandson: ALT1 and ALT3 both check out, however I cannot approve ALT2 as the source does not say "2020" and this fact needs a source. I also don't find ALT0a interesting. Please source "2020".--Launchballer 01:18, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Slgrandson:: Ping failed.--Launchballer 01:19, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ellen Oliver (suffragette)

Ellen Oliver
Ellen Oliver
Created by Lajmmoore (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 96 past nominations.

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Lajmmoore (talk) 16:44, 21 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Great work on this article! Earwig highlighted a few words, but they just appear to be common words and phrases. Good to go!  Kentuckian |💬   15:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I worry about this hook's WP:DYKINTerestingness, as it is entirely dependent on knowing its names (I only know of Joanna Southcott because I'm distantly related to her). What else have you got?--Launchballer 08:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Lajmmoore and Kentuckian: ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:02, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The WP:DYKINTerestingness is not from the names mentioned. who are both notable, and Southcott is known to some (who are not related to her). The key phrase here is "spiritual child". If Miss X is the spiritual child of Miss Y .... then its intriguing. Adding "prophet" in front of Joanna would be better but I'm not sure "I'm (personally) not impressed" is a valid reason. If there is no offered alternative then this should proceed as approved IMO, no reason to stall it. Victuallers (talk) 10:55, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Let's see an ALT to that effect.--Launchballer 22:41, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on April 24[edit]

Samuel Kummer

Kummer at the organ console of the Frauenkirche
Kummer at the organ console of the Frauenkirche
5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2103 past nominations.

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Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I've taken the liberty of proposing a rearranged ALT0a for reasons of grammar, as it was looking a bit breathless, and so that it ends with "Samuel Kummer" instead of "his own".
    ALT0a: ... that for his first recital as the organist of the restored Frauenkirche in Dresden, Samuel Kummer chose music by Bach, Brahms, Max Reger, Louis Vierne, and Samuel Kummer?
    --Launchballer 10:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt: This is the oldest fully unreviewed nom and I need a QPQ, so I'm reviewing. New enough, blurbless ITN notwithstanding, and long enough. Earwig has no valid complaints. Looking at ALT0a now, Reger and Vierne are lesser 'names' and I'd expect a more merciless prepbuilder to cut them, but I'll let them make that decision. Two things; as written, the 'Life and career' section would deserve {{subsections}} (and surely 'Personal life' comes under Life and career anyway), and single-sentence WP:PARAGRAPHs should be avoided - this should be reordered somehow.--Launchballer 22:54, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the review, Launchballer! I tried subheaders but am not happy, because it's impossible to be halfway chronological with groups, - help wanted. I know that single sentences should be avoided, but there is only one sourced sentence about his teaching, and it fits nowhere else. The single sentence about the award for the recording belongs to the preceding quote, - would you know a way to connect it (besides not using template quote)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:07, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If I understand what a Bezirkskantor is correctly, then both the Kirchheim unter Teck and Frauenkirche sections could be merged. The Hochschule sentence could either be incorporated into the Personal life section or appended to the end of the first paragraph of Frauenkirche, though I can't see it in that source. Also, and I'm sorry I didn't say this earlier, but the lead could do with another sentence or two.--Launchballer 13:12, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bezirkskantor, as the article explains, means regional church musician, responsible for the church music of a district. Frauenkirche, however, is one of the most prominent churches in the world - those two should not be merged. Hochschule has nothing to do with personal life. It can't be at the end of Frauenkirche, firstly because it has nothing to do with it, and began during the Frauenkirche time but lasted until his death. - I'll look at the lead. German leads always have just one sentence, and this is a translated (and then expanded) article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I looked, but would not know what details to add to the lead without placing undue weight on them. What would you like to read there? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:38, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on April 25[edit]

DarkZero Esports

Created by Soulbust (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 34 past nominations.

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Soulbust (talk) 12:55, 2 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

The Sheep Eaters (film)

Source: https://elonet.finna.fi/Record/kavi.elonet_elokuva_101068?lng=en-gb

    • Reviewed:
Created by Juustila (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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Juustila (talk) 13:45, 25 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

ALT1: ...that a Finnish film The Sheep Eaters was shown on TV while another channel was showing Ice Hockey World Championships match between Finland and the Soviet Union, still gaining over million views? Source: https://elonet.finna.fi/Record/kavi.elonet_elokuva_101068?lng=en-gb
Juustila (talk) 02:52, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
194 characters. Full review needed.--Launchballer 17:34, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • New, long, hook verified (though I'd trim the hook more). A couple concerns:
    • Copyright violation is an issue even in translation. Unless Elonet's text is in the public domain, the first two paragraphs of the Production section/second paragraph of Filming are much too close and should be rewritten.
    • Why is the article not titled Lampaansyöjät (film)? None of the sources seem to use that English name, nor do databases like IMDb. I suggest moving it to the Finnish title unless English sources actually use the translated version.
    • Smaller note, the article mentions a 2019 TV presentation without having introduced it.
Hameltion (talk | contribs) 22:56, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Taiyin Xingjun

Painting of Taiyin Xingjun, the Western Xia (982–1227), in Hermitage Museum.
Painting of Taiyin Xingjun, the Western Xia (982–1227), in Hermitage Museum.
Created by TheGreatPeng (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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TheGreatPeng (talk) 06:52, 25 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi, who will review my DYK? And how many days do I need to wait for a review? TheGreatPeng (talk) 18:45, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Please be patient. This is a volunteer effort, and the average wait time for a review could be around two to three weeks, perhaps sooner or later depending on who is active. Please be mindful of WP:DYK200. It may help to present alternate hooks for consideration. Viriditas (talk) 20:56, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But it was too long to wait; even my second DYK was reviewed. TheGreatPeng (talk) 05:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Article is sourced well, no plagiarism, new enough, long enough, but needs another pass over for grammar, spelling, and tone. Article could also use clarification about which aspects of worship of this god apply to China/specific regions of China, and which to Taiwan. Hook should also be simplified. How about: ...that Taiyin Xingjun (pictured) is the original Chinese moon goddess, but is often confused with Chang'e?

Luiysia (talk) 16:49, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • How about: ... that Taiyin Xingjun (pictured) is the original Chinese moon goddess, while the more famous Chang'e considered her incarnation?

TheGreatPeng (talk) 18:00, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Luiysia: pls finish your review. Thanks TheGreatPeng (talk) 07:21, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 26[edit]

Giovanni Manu

Created by BeanieFan11 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 168 past nominations.

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BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:26, 5 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I've moved this on T:TDYK. You should probably step on the QPQ, given that this is already late.--Launchballer 08:29, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: QPQ done. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:50, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Full review needed.--Launchballer 21:58, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bob Noel

Improved to Good Article status by BeanieFan11 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 167 past nominations.

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BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Ilie Purcaru

Purcaru in 1983
Purcaru in 1983
  • Source: Nicolae Coande, "Băiatul căruia nu-i era frică de lup", in Cuvântul Libertății, April 2, 2003, p. 4: Scriitori și oamenii de cultură, nu mai vorbesc de gazetarii de la Scânteia sau România liberă, se întreceau în a-i demonstra că nu are de ce să se teamă că a fost descoperit... genial. În acel an de pomină, scriitorii care au vizitat Scorniceștiul pentru a mai afla ceea ce nu se știa din biografia celui plecat în Lume de pe aceste meleaguri obscure au reușit să afle lucruri excepționale. Grație flerului jurnalistic al lui Ilie Purcaru, combatant la Flacăra, dar și mitomaniei de care erau cuprinși de-a valma cei care îl cunoscuseră cândva, s-a putut afla că micuțului Ceaușescu nu îi era deloc frică de lup atunci când se ducea în pădure, dar și că îi plăcea să pună în scenă jocuri cu subiecte istorice unde camarazii săi îl alegeau invariabil de șef. ("Writers and men of culture, not to mention the journalists at Scînteia sau România Liberă, took turns demonstrating [to Ceaușescu] that he had nothing to fear at having been discovered as... a genius. In that infamous year, the writers who visited Scornicești, arriving there to dig up unknown details from the biography of he who had left that obscure realm to enter The World, managed to pick up some outstanding information. Thanks to the journalistic flair of Ilie Purcaru, that combative voice at Flacăra, but also to the mythomania that had swept across those who had known him [Ceaușescu] back in the day, the reader was informed as to little Ceaușescu's not being even a little afraid of wolves as he roamed about the woods, but also that he liked to stage games on historical subjects, where his comrades would invariably select him as the leader.")
    Note that parts of the quote are tongue-in-cheek; Cuvântul Libertății is a provincial newspaper in Craiova (where Purcaru himself was active for much of his life); Nicolae Coande is a poet and journalist based in that same city, whose graduate paper was on the "myths of Romanian communism", and who holds a masters' in philosophy (see his CV at the Romanian Writers' Union).
  • ALT1: ... that according to a legend recorded in Romanian journalists' circles, Ilie Purcaru (pictured) covered the Vietnam War only because he was dying from cirrhosis, but returned "healthy as a horse"? Source: Constantin Poenaru, Publicistica: 2004–2016, pp. 36–37. Râmnicu Vâlcea: Editura INTOL PRESS, 2022. ISBN 978-606-8701-35-6: Despre Ilie Purcaru circula prin redacție vorba că, fiind bolnav grav de ciroză și convins, prin urmare, că nu o mai duce mult, s-ar fi oferit singur să plece corespondent în Vietnam, în perioada războiului cu americanii. Urmarea, anecdotică, este că, prin nu se știe ce minune, s-a întors sănătos tun, deși a avut de îndurat multe privațiuni acolo. ("As to Ilie Purcaru, the rumor in our editorial office was that, having fallen severely ill with cirrhosis, and therefore convinced that he would not last for long, he volunteered to be a correspondent in Vietnam, during the war with the Americans. The follow-up, according to this anecdotal account, is that, by who knows what miracle, he came back as healthy as a horse, regardless of how many hardships he had encountered there.")
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Carrie Swain
  • Comment: This article could've been both a nomination as a creation (by Biruitorul) or an expansion (by me). There are plenty of other juicy facts in the article, such as Ion Iliescu's thoughts on having Purcaru slapped "once or twice" (I'm leaving this out because the Iliescu article is messy, and because the incident is a tad obscure), or his appearing on Romanian Television with two exactly opposite messages before and after the 1989 Revolution (again, pretty obscure context to fit in a hook).
5x expanded by Dahn (talk) and Biruitorul (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 108 past nominations.

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Dahn (talk) 10:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Bulgur Palas

Bulgur Palas
Bulgur Palas
  • ... that the historic mansion Bulgur Palas (pictured) takes its name from bulgur, Turkish word for cracked wheat foodstuff, the first owner traded?
  • Source: "Habib Bey’in savaş yıllarında karaborsa bulgur satarak yaptırdığı iddia edilen Bulgur Palas" (in Turkish) ; [6]
Created by CeeGee (talk) and Burackb (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 220 past nominations.

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CeeGee 12:10, 2 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Very nice article about I building which I often admired from the old commuter train Halkali - Sirkeci (and I thought it was the Armenian patriarchate... :-( ), and which I saw again last March after traveling for the first time on the new T6 line. I would say that the only thing that the article needs is a copyedit, and that the hook should explain where the building is: i propose the following version:

ALT1 ... that the Bulgur Palas (pictured) a historic mansion in Istanbul, takes its name from bulgur, wheat groats that the first owner traded?
What do you think about it?
Moreover, I would mention in the article that the mansion was home to canaries (this could be the subject of another interesting hook), and that was plundered during the Istanbul pogrom, but I leave these additions to you. Cheers! Alex2006 (talk) 08:59, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT2 ... that the historic mansion Bulgur Palas (pictured) in Istanbul hosted a birdhouse for hundreds of domestic canaries in one room during its ownership by the Ottoman Bank? CeeGee 12:22, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Alessandro57: Thank you for your review and nice comment. ALT1 hook is better formulated. I've expanded the article according to your advice, and provided ALT2 hook. Please recheck. Who knows what notable buildings we pass by every day and don't know really about them. Cheers. CeeGee 12:22, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is absolutely no way this article can be passed on Main Page in the current state. It often uses a word-order that seems to reflect Turkish grammar, rather than English, and at time simply invents words ("aquiry" is one staring at us from the first sentences). I assure you that I sympathize with the creator, as code-switching between such vastly different languages must be a terrible ordeal. Dahn (talk) 12:56, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CeeGee: thanks a lot for your expansion and for ALT2. @Dahn:, I agree with you that the article needs copy editing (that's why I asked for it), and I suppose the horrible language level is due to the author of the translation, who is not the nominator. I am the reviewer (and my native language is Italian), so I am not allowed to do that. CeeGee, do you think you can do it, or do we have to find someone else? Alex2006 (talk) 17:24, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Alessandro57 and Dahn: I will request copyediting by the GOCE. Let's see if the nomination can survive the two-month limit. CeeGee 04:57, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @TSventon: Thank you very much indeed for your great help. CeeGee 10:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Dahn: A nice user copyedited the article. I ask you to recheck it. Please let me know if you don't complain anymore so that ı can remove my request from the GOCE, and the reviewer can proceed. CeeGee 10:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @CeeGee: Fine work. But I have some (additional) questions regarding the sourcing. For instance: "Due to the financial difficulties experienced by Habip Bey resulting from his arrest after the Armistice of Mudros in 1918 and his exile to Malta in 1919,[2] the construction could not be fully completed.[3]" How can reference [2] not cite the part referenced with reference [3], without this being a case of WP:SYNTH? Either that, or they both cite the second part of the phrase, in which case the referencing is unusually sloppy. Dahn (talk 19:43, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Dahm: The fact used in the article is below in original Turkish form. If needed, I can supply a Google translation:

“Mütareke döneminde Habib Bey, İtilaf Devletlerinin talebi doğrultusunda tutuklanarak Bekirağa Bölüğü 'ne hapsedilir.”, “Habib Bey daha sonra 1 yıldan daha fazla kalacağı Malta'ya sürgüne gönderilir.” [7] (ref #2)

“Bolulu Habib Bey de 20’likler listesinde Malta’ya sürülür. Malta’da kurulan mahkemede yargılanan Habib Bey, 20 Temmuz 1920’de hiçbir ceza almadan İstanbul’a geri gönderilir. Ancak bir süre sonra tekrar tutuklanır. Bu dönemde Habib Bey’in ailesi bankalara epeyce borçlanmıştı. Osmanlı Bankası’ndan alınan kredilerin faizi bile ödenemez duruma gelir. Bulgur Palas’ın inşaatı da bir türlü bitirilemez. “ [8] (ref #3)

CeeGee 05:11, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well that is precisely my point: the tidbit about the exile and how it left the house unfinished is verified by two (three?) sources, one of which also verified another fact. The citation of these facts was entirely chaotic, using just one of the sources for the fact, and giving the impression that two facts were pasted together. I tried to amend the references and syntax accordingly. Other parts of the article continue to have the same issue: "a room in the downstairs was reserved as a birdhouse for hundreds of domestic canaries,[4] which were probably raised to live in the branches of the Ottoman Bank.[2]" This gives the impression that source number [4] verifies the number of canaries, and source [2] discusses how they got there. But is this really the case? Dahn (talk) 06:32, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't understand what you mean with "But is this really the case?" Please specify more clear for me. CeeGee 10:15, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dahn is asking whether it really is the case that source number [4] verifies the number of canaries, and source [2] discusses how they got there? TSventon (talk) 11:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is there a need to know how the birds got there? I really cannot understand this question. It is mentioned that they were there. CeeGee 11:52, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @CeeGee: It's a style issue. The phrase uses two references, both of which presumably verify that canaries lived there. From how they are used, I gather that the first one specifies a fact not mentioned in the former: the (rough) number of canaries; presumably, the other one doesn't go into that level of detail, but specifies how they got there ("raised to live in etc."). Is this how the sources are used, or is this this another case of just randomly adding citations to various parts of a phrase? Dahn (talk) 19:06, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Dahn: Thank you for your attention. The citations were mismatched. I fixed it now. CeeGee 10:12, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @CeeGee: Not really. I verified myself, and it gets really weird: both sources actually cite both facts (the number of canaries, and how they got in the building), so prima facie it makes absolutely no sense to not add them both as citations to the end of the phrase (this is the "sloppy referencing" I mentioned -- I don't understand why anyone would play eenie-meeny with references, randomly picking out what source to use for what fact (instead of checking all sources, for all facts). But then, get this: at least in that portion of the text, both sources are identical, because one is a likely mirror of the other, or because they plagiarized each other. This makes it even more absurd: two identical references, one of which would have to be redundant, but each used to source a different fact. Dahn (talk) 10:39, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Dahn: are you happy for Alessandro57 to resume their review, or do you have further questions? TSventon (talk) 14:22, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @TSventon: The issue I raised above remains unaddressed by either the editor or the nominator (the latest edit simply switched the references around, which does not answer the objection). The weird use of sources/citations is prevalent in other parts of the article as well. Consider: "The building consists of five floors:[8] one cellar, three full floors and one half floor.[9]" How can source [9] not verify the fact verified by source [8], if it spells out the same number of floors? Dahn (talk) 14:27, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Dahn: I think your post on 8 May was probably read as a comment, which did not need an answer. Could you list the remaining problems, ping CeeGee and tell them what you want them to do?
The original version of the article as translated from tr Wikipedia said "It consists of three full floors and one half floor.[4]" CeeGee (I think) has expanded that to the current version, adding "one cellar", which is not mentioned by source [9]. I am unsure whether the half floor is a semi-basement or a mezzanine, the pictures suggest that the building has four storeys including the towers plus a semi-basement. TSventon (talk) 15:17, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @CeeGee: Please make sure your copyedit addresses the issues I raised above: the sources need to be used consistently, of the two sources with the exact same text (for the canary factoid) only once must be selected, the disagreement in sources regarding the number of floors needs to be noted (if this indeed what has happened there). In general: if a fact is verified by several sources, the usage of references needs to change. It's not: "my dog has four legs,[1] one of which is darker than the other three[2]", but either: "my dog has four legs[1][2]. One is darker than the other three[2]", or "my dog has four legs, one of which is darker than the other three[2]". Dahn (talk) 15:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • CeeGee, I have another query. The article says "It is claimed that the house, also called the Bolulu Habip Bey Mansion, was financed by the black market trade in grain and bulgur, a cracked wheat foodstuff, during World War I.[1]" This seems to be based on the opening lines of ref #1. However ref #2 and ref #3 via Google translate do not mention the black market. The quote from ref #1 looks like a political editorial comment, how did you decide it was more reliable than the accounts in ref #2 and ref #3?

"Bulgur Palace, which Habib Bey allegedly had built by selling bulgur on the black market during the war years, is opening to the public almost 100 years later. It is as if the history of the mansion is also the history of the country." [9] (ref #1) via Google translate.

An example from ref 2 "During this period, Mehmed Habib Bey, who was a Bolu deputy from the Committee of Union and Progress, made a great fortune from the grain and bulgur monopoly, and with the money he earned, he built the building, somewhat ironically known as 'Bulgur Palace' among the public."[10] (ref #2). via Google translate.

TSventon (talk) 10:56, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • "İttihat Terakki Bolu Mebusu Habib Bey’in bulgur vurgunundan kazandığı paralarla yaptırıldığı için Bulgur Palas olarak anılan konağın ardında ise derin acılar yatıyor." [11] CeeGee 11:58, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article uses the term black market, i.e. trading that violates laws or rules. "bulgur vurgunundan" Google translates as bulgur profiteering, i.e. unethical but not necessarily illegal trading. That is an important difference in English, obviously the terms used in another language won't exactly correspond to those used in English. I would avoid black market unless I was sure it was justified. TSventon (talk) 12:13, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I won't oppose to you. It may be better to use "profiteering" or "fortune from unfair trade". I guess you can formulate it better in that soft way. CeeGee 05:25, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would suggest the easiest thing is to leave out black market. The source doesn't explain why Habib Bey's trading was black market and only uses the word in an 21st century context, rather than in the section about Habib Bey. An alternative would be to explain the context in more detail, but I would find that difficult as I don't speak Turkish or know much about Ottoman economic history. TSventon (talk) 11:02, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Dahn: About the phrase with"canaries": I didn't know that difference in using references. Fixed it now. About the phrase with "floors": I tried to clarify it in two sentences. Please recheck. CeeGee 10:32, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm sorry, CeeGee, but the way in which this article uses sources continues to be ridiculous. I fixed another such sophomoric use of the citations, but I'm bewildered by the sort of logic that went for instance in citing the very same fact, about Mogeri being the architect, twice in the text, each time with a different source. This is probably something that happened in other parts of the article, probably throughout -- judging from a quick glance at the text and the sources. I also noticed that several sources have authors clearly indicated in the link, yet they are not mentioned in the citation. I am sorry for burdening you with this task, but the article needs a deeper copyedit. Dahn (talk) 14:07, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • No problem as long as you have time. I tried to fix the "Mongeri"-issue. Since I cannot detect any others by myself, you may specify explicitly. CeeGee 08:32, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 27[edit]

Travis Glover

  • Reviewed: Data breach
  • Comment: Appears to be a few hours late, requesting WP:IAR because I didn't realize it was pushing a week.
Created by BeanieFan11 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 41 past nominations.

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« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 01:57, 5 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

1973 Eclipse Flight of Concorde 001

Created by Samsmachado (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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Samsmachado (talk) 00:46, 29 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article was nominated within the time scale and is long enough. Earwig suggests no copyright violation—a short quotation is properly attributed. The image is PD. QPQ stands at 4—not required. All references to which I have access check out, except "The Concorde's 74 minutes of totality remains the longest total eclipse observation." I couldn't find this in Hatherill (but it may be in Pappalardo, which I have taken on trust). Pappalardo is also the attribution for both hooks, so assuming GF. The "hold" may be quickly disposed of if Hatherill isn't used for "longest flight"

This is only my second DYK review—oversight welcome. --AntientNestor (talk) 16:03, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the Hatherill for longest flight. I did add a 2010 Wired article instead to try and back it up with a source that wasn't paywalled. (Grossman: "The longest totality ever observed by an experimental aircraft was 74 minutes, captured by a supersonic Concorde aircraft in 1973. .") Samsmachado (talk) 21:38, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did just go through this with Earwig, and actually there are a couple of phrases that need changing.--Launchballer 11:53, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just tweaked some of the phrases Earwig flagged. Mostly it's picking out attributed quotations and a few things that I would call broadly 'terms', in the sense that they can't really be re-worded because that's just what they are (ie. "four twin-spool Olympus 593 engines", " oxygen atoms in the Earth's atmosphere", "the path of a total solar eclipse"). Launchballer, if you have any specific concerns within those, please flag them. Samsmachado (talk) 21:36, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lev Gatovsky

  • ... that Lev Gatovsky was one of the first economists to create a theoretical framework to analyze the Soviet economy?
    • Reviewed:
5x expanded by FranGallego33 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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FranGallego33 (talk) 22:11, 27 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • 5X expansion reverted because the added content was copyright protected. David notMD (talk) 02:31, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Presumably safe to reject the nom for now then? Juxlos (talk) 05:33, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article has still been 5x expanded; it just now has empty sections, and so can't run per WP:DYKCOMPLETE. Suggest giving FranGallego33 some time to fill the gaps in their own words.--Launchballer 09:02, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Confirming that only part of what FrabGallego33 added was reverted for copyright infringement. My mistake. David notMD (talk) 09:09, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New reviewer needed. Z1720 (talk) 15:48, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on April 28[edit]

Travis Clayton

  • ... that Travis Clayton went from the eighth tier of English rugby league to being drafted into the National Football League, even though he never played in a football game?
5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 170 past nominations.

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BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:44, 5 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Delta (emulator)

Screenshot of the Delta emulator
Screenshot of the Delta emulator
Moved to mainspace by CanonNi (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

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🌙Eclipse (talk) (contribs) 16:22, 1 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

The Days of '98 Show

Created by Cunard (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 73 past nominations.

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Cunard (talk) 00:13, 28 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 29[edit]

Michael Jurgens

  • ... that in 42 high school games, football player Michael Jurgens never lost?
  • Source: Wake Forest ("Never lost a varsity game in his career, going 42-0")
5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 172 past nominations.

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BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:26, 6 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article is solid, meets DYK length and newness requirements, looks to be neutral and free of copyvio. Hook is interesting, but I'm nervous about using "high school" when the source uses "varsity" – could he have played JV in high school also? BeanieFan11? ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 04:03, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's been a week and no QPQ has been provided. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:18, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jarrett Kingston

5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 171 past nominations.

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BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:19, 6 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I've fixed this for you, but this does need a QPQ.--Launchballer 22:48, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is not a review but rather a comment, but I have some concerns about the hook. American football isn't that popular internationally, meaning the hook as currently written might have a limited appeal especially if non-American readers are unfamiliar with gridiron positions. Per WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE a more understandable hook may be needed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:03, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • People don't need to know what the positions actually mean; it's very clear that he was moved around a lot. Those who understand the concept of sports positions will understand that much, and that it's not typical. Reviewer still needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:47, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Unless a QPQ is provided BeanieFan11 this nomination will be rejected. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:20, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Daniela Kerck

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2104 past nominations.

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Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:18, 6 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article is new enough and long enough. It is properly sourced. Earwig detects some close paraphrasing with this site, so that will need to be resolved before the nomination can be approved. QPQ pending. The hook itself is interesting, but it's a little on the long side and I wonder if it could be simplified to simply:
ALT0a ... that when Daniela Kerck directed Giacomo Puccini's Turandot in 2024, she played the opera unfinished as it was when Puccini died in 1924?
I included Puccini's full name in the hook as he may not be a composer that is known by name among most readers unlike say Mozart or Beethoven. Apart from the close paraphrasing, my main concern with the article right now is the wording of the hook supporting sentences.

She directed Puccini's Turandot in her sets for the 2024 Internationale Maifestspiele, conducted by Yoel Gamzou. She decided to use none of the three completions of Puccini's opera that was unfinished when he died in 1924. She identified the Prince with the composer. When he died in the end, the beginning of his Requiem was performed.

It's a bit confusing to get how the hook is connected to this excerpt, though I think the issue here is more about wording, so a copyedit to make the article or at least the passage flow better might solve the issue. Pinging 4meter4 for help in copyediting the article so that the passage would more clearly support the hook. As an aside, the reference supporting the hook needs to be after "when he died in 1924" rather than after the mention of the Requiem.
I would also like to ask 4meter4 how significant Kerck's directing of this particular performance is or how significant the Internationale Maifestspiele is in the world of opera, but this would not affect the nomination but rather is just a request for additional context. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:31, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Didn't you say you review my nominations only when they have lingered for weeks? Kindly read the article about the festival, - it was founded after the model of the Bayreuth Festival in the 19th century. Anna Netrebko came to sing Turandot during the festival. [15][16] - Puccini is probably better known than Mozart due to La bohéme. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:16, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ Narutolovehinata5 The Internationale Maifestspiele is a respected and long standing opera festival that draws a sizable international crowd (typically around 20,000 people+). It is one of the more important opera festivals in Germany, although it isn't as famous as the Bayreuth Festival which is on another level and is probably the most famous opera festival in the world. The Internationale Maifestspiele would be known by anyone who follows opera seriously in Europe, and would probably be immediately recognizable to most people living in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, and parts of France (the German speaking parts along the French/German border). I don't think the average person outside of those countries would find it immediately recognizable, but that shouldn't preclude using it in the hook. Turandot is a very famous opera, and even people only nominally familiar with opera would probably either know the name or recognize some of its music. Most people would know Nessun dorma for example which has played in the soundtracks of many films and tv shows, and has been performed on numerous singing competition programs internationally.4meter4 (talk) 17:13, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The hook fact is not accurate in either version of the hook. The opera was not played "unfinished" but ends with the death of Liu by design. There's a long discussion with the director at https://www.staatstheater-wiesbaden.de/download/42624/hsw_ph_turandot_rz_digital_240404.pdf about the crafting of a new ending by Kerck. If one reads through the program they make an argument about why the opera should end with Liu's death, and how Kerck utilized notes and sketches by Puccini to rework a new ending that ends in that place. In other words, we shouldn't suggest that the opera just leaves off where Puccini stopped, because that isn't what this production did. Nor should we call it "unfinished" because it was given a re-worked ending designed by Kerck based on notes left by Puccini and incorporating portions of Puccini's 1905 Requiem. I also note that it is called a "new ending" in the Frankfurter Rundschau review that is cited.
I also have an issue with the original hook because it seems to say she was 'directing through scenic design' as opposed to staging the production. She staged it and she designed the sets and that isn't at all clear in the first hook. Lastly, the article currently fails the WP:BLPSOURCES guideline because the biographical content is sourced to an opera company website that employs Kerck. @Gerda Arendt this is a repeating problem. Stop using opera company and orchestra website artist bios to write articles. These are not independent sources, and our policies on BLPs require "high quality" (ie independent) sources. That's not negotiable.
Finally, the last two sentences of the article are very confusing to anybody not familiar with Turandot, and is obviously in error to those who are. The character of the prince (ie Calaf) needs to be explained. Further the text asserts the prince dies and is being conflated with Puccini's death, but Calaf doesn't die in the opera, Liu does. That whole bit seems confusing and to be in error. It doesn't really grasp what the sources are saying accurately. There needs to be plot context, and discussion of the autobiographical nature of Puccini's interaction with the characters from events in his life in order to make it understood what Kerck was actually doing with her original ending which places Liu and her death (not the prince who remains very much alive) at the climax of the opera. @ Narutolovehinata5 If it is alright with you I am going to take over this review because of the factual errors in an area I have some knowledge in. 4meter4 (talk) 16:45, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4meter4, thank you for clarifying festival and opera. - The hook: it took you several sentences to describe what she did (direct, design the stage, create a new ending with different music than usually ...), - could you kindly offer a wording in 200 chars, or help with it? I think we will have to mention that Puccini left the opera unfinished when he died in 1924 (the year needed because of the centenary), which leaves little room to say more, - I doubt that it's commonly known. How about saying that the performance leaves out the happy ending that he wasn't able to compose? Trying:
ALT2: ... that Daniela Kerck, scenic designer and stage director of Puccini's Turandot for the 2024 Internationale Maifestspiele, omitted the happy ending that the composer had not set to music when he died in 1924?
ALT2a: ... that Daniela Kerck, scenic designer and stage director of Turandot at the 2024 Internationale Maifestspiele, omitted the happy ending that Puccini had not composed when he died in 1924?
Other ideas welcome. - Which "biographical information" do you think is sourced to an opera company? - This is not yet a reply to the last paragraph, - we had an edit conflict, twice. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:05, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
After edit conflict: what I saw on stage was that after Liu's death, the Prince/Puccini moves to the grand piano, Turandot follows, kisses him, and he dies (called "Todeskuss" - kiss of death - in one of the reviews), - the new ending. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:11, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt I think the tags I placed are self explanatory as to which sources are promotional non-independent sources. I'll take a look at the plot change leading to Calaf's death by looking through more sources. In reading the one interview with Kerck, she specifically emphasized Liu's death as her focus and pointedly named the Prince as complicit in her death through his silence. Regardless, it would seem killing off the prince at the end rather than having him end happily with Turandot would be a hooky fact. I think the emphasis of the hook should de-emphasize Puccini and focus more on Kerck and her original work. The hook language should not cram too many facts in, but should be a focused sentence on a single fact.4meter4 (talk) 21:42, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I made some changes, adding sources, and dropping the details at the end that you found confusing. I added a newspaper ref for the nomination for the Opera Award. Only, it's subscription only, so I left the University ref for the same fact - that people can actually read - also. (I also don't see that what a university reports about an alumna is "promotional.") I need sleep, and tomorrow is a feast day. Patience please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:57, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ Gerda, I was able to find more detail in this review which confirms the kiss of death https://magazin.klassik.com/konzerte/reviews.cfm?TASK=review&PID=8178. I would suggest incorporating more detail into Kerck's article highlighting specific changes to the story between her ending and the other traditional endings. A good hook could read something like this: Alt3 ... that Daniela Kerck's new ending to Puccini's Turandot reenvisioned Turandot giving the prince the kiss of death rather than proclaiming her love?4meter4 (talk) 22:20, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@4meter4: I'm okay with you taking over the review, but given that Puccini isn't a household name and not everyone may know who he is, I'd suggest that any hook mentioning him give his full name. I'll leave it to another reviewer as to whether or not ALT3 is okay but personally I'm not a fan of it since it assumes knowledge of the opera, which not all readers may have. My preference would be more towards some variation of ALT2's hook fact as it seems less specialist. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:59, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5 I would consider Puccini a household name and a commonly known figure. He is a seminal composer in the western canon and one of the most performed and recorded composers of all time, on the same level as Mozart, Wagner, Verdi, Bach, etc. Indeed, he gets performed more frequently than Wagner, placing third on the list of most performed composers, surpassing both Beethoven and Bach. I disagree that a full name is needed, or that Puccini could be considered in any way an obscure figure. His operas are ubiquitously performed globally and have been for over a century. According to opera base, in the year 2024 alone there are 681 different professional productions of his operas being staged around the world, and that includes companies in Asia, North and South America, Australia, Africa, and Europe. That doesn't include the many orchestras and concerts that are programing his music as well in 2024. There are very few composers so widely performed across the world, and over such a long period of time. I would think most of our readers would know who Puccini is, and if they don't, they would be the exception. His arias even get sung and recorded by pop and rock singers on occasion which is rare for an opera composer. For example "Nessun dorma" from Turandot has been performed by Adam Lambert, Queen, Jennifer Hudson, Jeff Beck, Josh Groban, Manowar, and Michael Bolton among many other non-opera singers.4meter4 (talk) 03:35, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4meter4, thank you for taking the time! I'm off for the day but reading this when just checking the watch list made the day even better. Recommended listening [17], enjoy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:33, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Gerda Arendt unless I am missing something in the above lengthy discussion, you have not provided a QPQ. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:22, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You of all people might have known that after returning from a good weekend trip, I first had to deal with the RD article of the day, and then with sourcing M. H.. I am not done (or am I, please check?), and before supplying a qpq, I'll have to source Kerck to your and 4meter4's liking, or not. What an opera company writes about its member is thought to be "promotional". Interesting. What I see is a list of roles. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Gerda Arendt. All work products/publications by a performing arts organization are intended as a tool of promotion as well as a tool for information. Opera companies/theatres are businesses and they have an invested interest in promoting their company/theatre and its performers in order to sell tickets. There is a commercial aspect to the performing arts, and the materials that an opera company/theatre produces for public consumption are directly connected to its commercial interests. This is why we should avoid using sources produced by theatres/opera companies as much as possible. Artist bios are written by talent management and PR companies. Most professional singers have a paid talent agent who specializes in marketing opera singers, and those agents often write the bios hosted on theatre/opera company websites. Or the opera company/theatre itself will have an in house PR/marketing staff member responsible for writing those materials. There is therefore, a direct COI with these kinds of sources because they are written as a marketing tool for commercial gain. When possible, its best not to use PR materials of this type for ethical reasons.4meter4 (talk) 15:53, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know what you normally read, but I see that Oper Frankfurt and Hessisches Staatstheater write their own bios, and their own high-class program books. - German opera houses in general are public institutions, financed mostly by tax money. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda, it's not a completely publicly funded institution. They sell tickets and market their organization. End of story. The fact that they are writing their own content makes it WP:SELFPUBLISHED in addition to having a financial COI. We shouldn't be using materials like this other than in an external link for ethical reasons.4meter4 (talk) 17:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Richmond Theatre (Richmond, Virginia). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:30, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Meat diaper, Weight fraud

  • Source: Ryan, John M. (19 October 2015). Food Fraud. 3.4.7 Weight Fraud: Academic Press. p. 39. ISBN 978-0-12-803398-2.
  • Reviewed:
Created by GobsPint (talk) and Pkgx (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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GobsPint (talk) 00:55, 1 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • @GobsPint: - The weight fraud articles has been tagged by @Lovkal:. This needs to be resolved. --evrik (talk) 19:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Article all looks good to me: long enough, new enough, citations look good, and no plagiarism found. However, this hook doesn't sound quite grammatically correct to me. How about: ... that putting pre-moistened meat diapers in case-ready meat is a form of weight fraud? Luiysia (talk) 17:02, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Case-ready is jargon. Can it be replaced by pre-packaged? —Femke 🐦 (talk) 08:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eurovision Song Contest 1991

Improved to Good Article status by Sims2aholic8 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.

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Sims2aholic8 (talk) 21:29, 29 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Camping in Alaska

  • ... that the Camping in Alaska song "C U in da Ballpit" was written in two hours after the band realized they rented too much time in the studio?
Created by ThaesOfereode (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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ThaesOfereode (talk) 14:29, 29 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Song titles ignore stylisations per MOS:TITLECAPS; for the hook, the song should be rendered "C U in da Ballpit". I'll leave it to you to update the article and the hook (most likely ALT0, as opinions can change).--Launchballer 14:56, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Full review needed.--Launchballer 16:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on April 30[edit]

Hae Nang Maew

  • ... that cats are taken in procession around villages and splashed with water as part of a rain-making ritual at the end of the dry season in Cambodia and Thailand?
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: Hook could be more catchy but it's the first time I submit a proposal and I am not too familiar so I hope it's OK.
Created by Willuconquer (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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Willuconquer (talk) 15:53, 3 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Claude Hamilton Verity, Charles Verity

1922 ad for Verity's invention
1922 ad for Verity's invention
Moved to mainspace by Storye book (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 104 past nominations.

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Storye book (talk) 11:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Blind (SZA song)

  • ... that many SZA songs, like "Blind", are previewed at the end of her music videos?
Improved to Good Article status by PSA (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 19 past nominations.

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‍  PSA 🏕️  (talk) 04:39, 3 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

QPQ: No - Not done
Overall: Article reached Good Article status within 7 days of nomination. Article has no problems with prose, sourcing, and neutrality. The hook is good. Nominator just needs to do a QPQ and it'll all be set. lullabying (talk) 02:54, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of roles and awards of Liza Soberano

Liza Soberano
Liza Soberano
Created by Pseud 14 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 36 past nominations.

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Pseud 14 (talk) 13:33, 1 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Sebastian Zouberbuhler, Jean Pettrequin

5x expanded by Z1720 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 49 past nominations.

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Z1720 (talk) 20:11, 30 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Larmanjat guided rail system

The spoked wheel on the front alters the weight distribution between road and rail wheels
The spoked wheel on the front alters the weight distribution between road and rail wheels
  • ... that early locomotives using the Larmanjat guided rail system had an extra operator at the front (pictured) to adjust the weight distribution between the road wheels and the rail wheels?
  • Source: [19], page 100: The mechanic may alter the proportion of the adhesion between the wheels on the rail and the wheels on the road (original in French).
  • ALT1: ... that in 1873 the Larmanjat guided rail system was successfully demonstrated at Buckhurst Hill, England, but the system failed completely when used commercially in Lisbon? Source: The Times 31 December 1872 page 4: A section of line on the proposed system had been laid down at Buckhurst Hill and an engine and rolling stock worked over it in the most satisfactory manner. But:
    [20] page 575: Law report from Court of Chancery, London, that the company formed for the Lisbon tramways had completely failed in its undertaking.
  • ALT2: ... that on the locomotives using the Larmanjat guided rail system the driving wheels were loose on the axle and the tractive force was transferred through wound-up springs? Source: [21] Engineering (magazine) 20 May 1870 page 354: "The driving wheels are not connected rigidly to the axle but are connected with it by spiral springs."
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1973 Eclipse Flight of Concorde 001
Created by AntientNestor (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

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AntientNestor (talk) 16:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 1[edit]

Richmond Theatre (Richmond, Virginia)

Painting of 1811 fire
Painting of 1811 fire
  • ... that the destruction of the Richmond Theatre by fire in 1811 (pictured) has been described as "early America's first great disaster"?
  • Source: Baker, Meredith Henne (2012). The Richmond Theater Fire: Early America's First Great Disaster. LSU Press. ISBN 9780807143742. Hook fact is in the book's title
Created by 4meter4 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 77 past nominations.

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4meter4 (talk) 01:50, 8 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting substantial article on four theatres (theaters?) and the life on their stages, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. The image is licensed and a good illustration. I will approve the hook if you want, but beg you to consider that we had a similar one for the separate article on that fire, in 2010. I found interesting that three of the four buildings burnt down, which would also include that the name doesn't mean only one. Suggestions for the article (not needed for approval), and actually for any article: mark upright images "upright", have images right unless a face looks to the right, add an infobox. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mike Gorman

Mike Gorman
Mike Gorman
  • Source: USA Today - "From Larry Bird to Paul Pierce to Kevin Garnett to Jayson Tatum − and everyone in between − the one constant over the past 43 years for the team was play-by-play announcer Mike Gorman."
5x expanded by Aria1561 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 30 past nominations.

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Aria1561 (talk) 00:27, 4 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General eligibility:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article pre-expansion was 1,418 bytes, which means that the expansion needs to exceed 7,090 bytes. As of now, it seems that it is approximately ~6,400 bytes. Can anything else be added to the article, @Aria1561:? BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:39, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11: Based on what WP:DYKLEN says, only the prose size is considered when determining DYK eligibility, not article byte size or total character length including the lead. The prose size prior to expansion was 1,028 characters and currently the prose size stands at 5,363 characters based on a manual calculation, which is over five times the pre-expansion size. Aria1561 (talk) 02:53, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lycus (river of Constantinople)

The Lycus valley at the Theodosian walls looking north
The Lycus valley at the Theodosian walls looking north
  • ... that on 29 May 1453 the Ottomans penetrated Constantinople from the Lycus valley (pictured)?
  • Source: This part of the walls is the most vulnerable...since here the fortifications descend in the valley of the Lycus...it was this section of the wall that was finally breached...on the morning of 29 May 1453. Freely (1991), p. 279
  • Reviewed: Bulgur Palas
  • Comment: As alternative to the displayed picture we could use this engraving, which shows the bottom of the valley near the walls.
Created by Alessandro57 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 81 past nominations.

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Alex2006 (talk) 05:50, 3 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article reached Good Article status within 7 days of nomination. QPQ is done. Image licensing is fine. The references look reliable and basic facts can be verified online, though I wish a more typical referencing format was used. I do recommend that the nominator adds some online, English-language references to complement the books and the two Turkish online sources used in the article.

The hook is cited within the article, although it is a little difficult to find - if it is the most important historical fact about this river, then it should be mentioned in the lead and preferably described as a sub-section, rather than mentioned in a single line by the end. For the hook itself, I think that the date isn't so important, and the strategic aspect should be emphasized more. Suggested wording: ... that weak defences around the Lycus valley played a pivotal role in the Fall of Constantinople? InformationToKnowledge (talk) 23:28, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 2[edit]

Peter Demetz

Demetz in 2012
Demetz in 2012
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2105 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 9 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Peewee Jarrett

  • ... that Peewee Jarrett went from having no offers to play college football, a two-year span with no playing time, and being "set on quitting football", to signing into the National Football League?
Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 176 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:32, 9 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Casey Washington

  • Source: several, e.g. Patch
5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 175 past nominations.

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BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:18, 9 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Bar Kokhba refuge caves

  • Source: Eshel, Hanan; Zissu, Boaz (2019). "The Refuge Caves". The Bar Kokhba Revolt: The Archaeological Evidence. Jerusalem: Yad Izhak Ben-Zvi. pp. 62–64. ISBN 978-965-217-429-1
  • ALT1: ... that over 30 refuge caves, where Jewish families sought shelter from the Roman army during the Bar Kokhba revolt, were discovered in the Judaean Desert? Source: Eshel, Hanan; Zissu, Boaz (2019). "The Refuge Caves". The Bar Kokhba Revolt: The Archaeological Evidence. Jerusalem: Yad Izhak Ben-Zvi. pp. 62–64. ISBN 978-965-217-429-1
  • Reviewed:
Created by Mariamnei (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

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Mariamnei (talk) 08:03, 5 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Jordynn Dudley

Created by Hameltion (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 54 past nominations.

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Hameltion (talk | contribs) 17:08, 3 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

2024 Loblaw boycott

  • ... that a nationwide boycott against Canada's largest grocer and supermarket chain was organized by a Reddit community?
Created by B3251 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.

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B3251 (talk) 08:39, 2 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

No problem, I probably won’t be able to have the QPQ finished for a bit anyways. B3251 (talk) 09:42, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Long enough, new enough, very well cited - not surprising given it's on the national news every day. QPQ and it's good to go. Maury Markowitz (talk) 15:37, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Maury Markowitz: QPQ added, it's been getting absolutely ripped to shreds in ITN noms so I'm not sure if I need to wait for it to be closed or not, but it is not being promoted there lol. Thanks for the review, B3251 (talk) 16:16, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@B3251: It can’t be promoted at the present state it’s still technically pending nomination to appear as a bold link on the main page. I think the best course of action for you if you believe that the ITN nom is totally hopeless is to withdraw the ITN nom and just focus on DYK instead, unless you want to bet on the extremely low chance that the consensus at ITN somehow drastically changes. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 16:56, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MonarchOfTerror: How do I withdraw it? B3251 (talk) 17:07, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@B3251: You do it by just closing the discussion as normal, just put withdrawn in the result parameter. However it seems that the nomination has already been closed by another editor, so there’s no need to do that now. The DYK can be promoted now. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 17:27, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MonarchOfTerror: Thanks, but it seems that it was already closed. The editor who closed it also setup an AfD, so I'm not totally sure how this DYK can go. B3251 (talk) 17:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@B3251: I did not see the AfD nomination. So it looks like this DYK nom has to go on hold regardless, since we have to wait for the AfD to end first since articles nominated for AfD/merging can’t be promoted. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 17:32, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 3[edit]

Julius Welschof

  • ... that German factory worker Julius Welschof now plays in the National Football League?
Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 177 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]


Articles created/expanded on May 4[edit]

Aurora Gaming, Fire Beavers

  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: QPQ to come soon; hoping WP:IAR can be applied for this nom. I think this can be a silly/quirky hook, so open to ALT hooks/phrasing as well to accentuate the quirkiness of it. Moved both pages to mainspace on May 4, so a few hours shy on the 7-day week limit. Just get busy offline and also on Wikipedia and lose track of the time tbh. Sorry about that. Soulbust (talk) 01:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Moved to mainspace by Soulbust (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. Nominator has 35 past nominations.

Soulbust (talk) 01:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

C. J. Hanson

  • ... that in 2024, C. J. Hanson became the first player from his school to be chosen in the NFL draft since 1989, and the team that chose him also chose the previous player?
  • Source: Kansas City Star ("He’s the first player from Holy Cross selected in the NFL Draft since the Chiefs selected linebacker Rob McGovern in 1989")
5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 178 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Qin Huasun

Created by Toadboy123 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 32 past nominations.

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Toadboy123 (talk) 12:33, 4 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Not interesting and a coatrack, since Huasun is surely not the person who made these decisions. (t · c) buidhe 00:07, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Buidhe: As Qin represented his country in the UNSC, he made the decision based on his country's political position. However, prior to 2011, China's vetoes in the UNSC were rare and only four times [22] were it used prior to the start of the 21st century. Since the mentioned vetoes were related to sending peacekeeping troops, it might be interesting as the users would look into the article to see why the peacekeeping resolutions were vetoed. However, if you any ideas for another hook in the article or if I should modify it in a certain phrasing, I am happy to consider that. - Toadboy123 (talk) 09:12, 7 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]
      • Yes, I know how the UN works. Certainly the hook phrasing makes it sound like a coatrack. Frankly not all articles are suited for DYK and this one may not be. Peacekeeping is not inherently dull but UN resolutions can be, especially if there is no real information what the vote is really about. Furthermore, the article as it stands does not qualify due to sourcing. (t · c) buidhe 13:23, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • @Buidhe: Is there anything that I should do to improve the article such as adding more reliable sources or expanding the information regarding the reasons of the vetoed resolutions so that the article can be featured in DYK ? Or does the article does not have the information much needed for the DYK? I can improve the article based on your suggestions but if you feel there is no room for it in DYK then you can cancel this nomination. - Toadboy123 (talk) 02:26, 7 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]
          • @Buidhe: I have added detailed information on the vetoed UN resolutions. Let me know if anything more has to be done. - Toadboy123 (talk) 06:56, 8 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]
  • Since I have not heard any response from the previous reviewer, can a new reviewer check the updates to the hook I made and if it is good to go? - Toadboy123 (talk) 03:59, 15 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]
Much to whinge about here I'm afraid. As written, the biography section would deserve {{subsections}}, and much of its early paragraphs can feel more than a bit WP:Proseline at times and would deserve {{prose}}. None of the hook has an end-of-sentence citation, and given that WP:CLUMP says that "more than three [references] should generally be avoided", I'm not going through four. Take your time, and ping me when these are remedied.--Launchballer 10:12, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: I have made the edits to the article based on the suggestions you made. Check and let me know if it is good to go now. - Toadboy123 (talk) 02:01, 16 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]
It's a bit better, but you need a cite for "February 2000".--Launchballer 14:49, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: Added citation. Let me know if all is good now. - Toadboy123 (talk) 03:36, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on May 5[edit]

Alas! and Did My Saviour Bleed

  • Source: Several examples in the article, including Coughlin, No More Jellyfish (2008), p. 101: "Many believers were given what's called worm theology. The name comes from the Isaac Watts hymn "Alas! And Did My Saviour Bleed," one line of which says, "Would He devote that sacred head for such a worm as I?"
  • Reviewed:
Created by Mystery Merrivale (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

 Mystery Merrivale  (talk) 17:16, 11 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Adnan al-Bursh

Created by Makeandtoss (talk) and Iskandar323 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 41 past nominations.

Makeandtoss (talk) 13:24, 9 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

El-Jai cave

  • ... that the El-Jai cave in the Judaean Desert, located in the modern-day West Bank, was used by Jewish refugees escaping the Roman army circa 135 CE? Source: Eshel, H. (2003). Documents of the First Jewish Revolt from the Judean desert. In The First Jewish Revolt: Archaeology, History, and Ideology. Routledge. p. 158
    • ALT1: ... that a hoard discovered in the El-Jai cave contained both Bar Kokhba and Aelia Capitolina coins, suggesting that the city was founded and had begun minting coins before the Bar Kokhba revolt erupted? Source: Hofman, Miriam Ben Zeev (2019). "Eusebius and Hadrian's Founding of Aelia Capitolina in Jerusalem". Electrum. 26: 120. doi:10.4467/20800909el.19.007.11210. ISSN 1897-3426.
    • Reviewed:
Created by Mariamnei (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

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Mariamnei (talk) 08:50, 5 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Professor Layton and the New World of Steam

Created by Suntooooth (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

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Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 05:43, 5 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Just realised that the hook I proposed probably falls foul of WP:DYKFICTION. An alternative:
  • If that hook isn't suitable, I'm not sure what else would make for a good hook in the article. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 19:51, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 won't work either, because hooks must not be likely to change, and 'will' will date.--Launchballer 23:18, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: The game isn't releasing until 2025 and no main entries are planned to release before it, so I don't see how this is an issue - if this hook is promoted, it'll definitely be before 2025. I've seen other hooks use "will" for something that'll be happening in the future, but not within the time it takes for the DYK process to complete. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 23:24, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Full review needed.--Launchballer 16:15, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 would seem to run afoul of WP:CRYSTAL, particularly number 5, but if it doesn't, then "will" in the hook needs to be replaced with something less definite, like "is planned to" or "is set to", since there's no guarantee that the game doesn't undergo changes in emphasis or doesn't get canceled altogether. I'm sorry to hear that other hooks have used "will", because they generally shouldn't do so. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:23, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@BlueMoonset: I've changed it to "is planned to be"; I don't fully understand how WP:CRYSTAL applies to a non-article like a DYK hook, but I get where you're coming from regardless. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 09:22, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 6[edit]

Animal stereotypes of Jews in Palestinian discourse

El-Masri, Yafa (2019). "I Will Never Sell My Father's Shop" (PDF). Jousour (2). Lebanese Palestinian Dialogue Committee: 16.
Langton, James (2007-05-12). "Life as an infidel". The Observer. ISSN 0029-7712. Retrieved 2024-04-24.</ref>
Created by Vegan416 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Vegan416 (talk) 21:41, 12 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • This proposal is simply outrageous and Wikipedia should not stoop so low as to advertise this sort of thing. Regarding the requirement of "well-sourced and neutral", the article is under serious dispute over its neutrality. Zerotalk 13:04, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
1. Not a serious dispute, and it will be resolved long before the reviewers will get to this DYK suggestion weeks from now.
2. Wikipedia "stooped so low" as to publish this in DYK on March 28:"... that Aaron Bushnell said that his action of setting himself on fire was less extreme than "what people have been experiencing in Palestine at the hands of their colonizers". What's the difference? Vegan416 (talk) 15:08, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
1. On the contrary, the dispute is deep and serious, making the article unstable. It definitely will not be allowed to remain in its present state. 2. While I would not have submitted the Bushnell proposal, the fact that Vegan can't see the difference between a political statement and hatred of an ethnic group is telling. Zerotalk 08:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not at all. The dispute is only about how to present the background. There is no dispute about the truth of the core facts presented in the article. And unless people would try to destabilize the article nefariously to disrupt the DYK process, it would naturally stabilize long before it reaches the DYK reviewers a few weeks from now. And Zero still hasn't explained what is "outrageous" here. This is a true fact. Why should it be censored? Vegan416 (talk) 09:58, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How is this relevant to this DYK suggestion? Vegan416 (talk) 15:27, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chronotropic incompetence

Created by Femke (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

—Femke 🐦 (talk) 19:39, 10 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Jwaneng diamond mine

  • ALT0a ... that the Jwaneng diamond mine, located in Botswana, is the richest diamond mine in the world by value?
    • Reviewed:
  • 5x expanded by 48JCL (talk).

    Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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    48JCL talk 21:42, 6 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    References

    Homeworld: Vast Reaches

    • Source: "Homeworld: Vast Reaches is less a virtual reality reinvention of this legendary space RTS than it is an unsatisfying lite version for the Meta Quest 2 and 3." [23]
    • ALT1: ... that the mixed reality mode in the real-time strategy virtual reality game Homeworld: Vast Reaches allows virtual ships to fly around the player's room? Source: "I was impressed by the unexpected ease of playing the game, but I wasn’t blown away until we switched over to Mixed Reality. In Passthrough Mode on the Quest 3, the blackness of outer space disappears, replaced with the real-life environment you’re physically in. Suddenly, the hotel room where I demoed the game became the setting of a thrilling dogfight. A bomber swooped in front of the TV set while enemy ships soared over the bed. It was quite a sight, but it was also very confusing." [24]
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Fang Yi'ai
    • Comment: Prefer ALT1, but it's tough to make it work with WP:DYKFICTION – I've attempted to thread the needle here. If I need more ALTs, happy to pull them.
    Created by Nomader (talk).

    Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 48 past nominations.

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    Nomader (talk) 14:36, 6 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Mrs. Brisby

    • Source: Somewhere Out There: My Animated Life (Book)
    https://books.google.com/books?id=4IhTEAAAQBAJ&pg=PT154
    Improved to Good Article status by PrimalMustelid (talk).

    Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

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    PrimalMustelid (talk) 12:50, 6 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on May 7[edit]

    Zer0

    • ... that Apex Legends player Zer0 is considered by many to be the game's best In-Game Leader in professional competitions?
    Created by Soulbust (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 36 past nominations.

    Soulbust (talk) 23:23, 14 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

    QPQ: No - Not done
    Overall: Looks good. Waiting on QPQ. Prefer ALT1. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:52, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Kefah Ali Deeb

    Kefah Ali Deeb by Lena Kern
    Kefah Ali Deeb by Lena Kern
    • ... that for Syrian artist Kefah Ali Deeb (pictured) the weather god Hadad is an example of ancient myths?
    Created by Munfarid1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 20 past nominations.

    Munfarid1 (talk) 21:34, 11 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    The Star Beast (Doctor Who)

    Dave Gibbons speaking at the 2017 San Diego Comic-Con
    Dave Gibbons speaking at the 2017 San Diego Comic-Con
    Improved to Good Article status by OlifanofmrTennant (talk).

    Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 10 past nominations.

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    Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 04:40, 7 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Toro de fuego

    Toro de fuego in San Sebastián
    Toro de fuego in San Sebastián
    5x expanded by Evrik (talk).

    Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 114 past nominations.

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    --evrik (talk) 04:17, 7 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • evrik, I don't think either hook is a good April Fools' candidate. I'm not sure I'd even use either as quirky. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:05, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    evrik, I do not have full access to El Pais. Can you recheck the second paragraph of Background, the one on San Sebastián, to make sure that text is supported? Either way, I suggest adding more details from El Pais. The detail will help the article and provide good hooks. Sparks flying 1.5m from 30 running metal fire bulls; that's a hook. CMD (talk) 14:57, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • CMD, I put the text here. The point may be moot as that section just got reorganized when I fixed the links. "Sparks flying 1.5 meters (4 ft 11 in) from 30 running metal fire bulls" - I'm thinking about it. --evrik (talk) 16:17, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on May 8[edit]

    Levi Drake Rodriguez

    • ... that football player Levi Drake Rodriguez, considered small for his position, went on an "eat-as-much-as-humanly-possible diet" to be noticed by NFL teams?
    • Source: articles in The Athletic (1 2)
    5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 179 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:14, 15 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Unified (concert)

    Sarah Geronimo
    Sarah Geronimo
    Improved to Good Article status by Pseud 14 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 37 past nominations.

    Pseud 14 (talk) 14:57, 15 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Climate change in Asia

    • ... that climate change in Asia will increase flood risks in the continent's cities, which are already high for 932 million people?
    • Source: [1]: 1532 
    Converted from a redirect by InformationToKnowledge (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

    InformationToKnowledge (talk) 23:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    References

    1. ^ Shaw, R., Y. Luo, T. S. Cheong, S. Abdul Halim, S. Chaturvedi, M. Hashizume, G. E. Insarov, Y. Ishikawa, M. Jafari, A. Kitoh, J. Pulhin, C. Singh, K. Vasant, and Z. Zhang, 2022: Chapter 10: Asia. In Climate Change 2022: Impacts, Adaptation and Vulnerability [H.-O. Pörtner, D. C. Roberts, M. Tignor, E. S. Poloczanska, K. Mintenbeck, A. Alegría, M. Craig, S. Langsdorf, S. Löschke, V. Möller, A. Okem, B. Rama (eds.)]. Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, United Kingdom and New York, New York, US, pp. 1457–1579 |doi=10.1017/9781009325844.012.

    Felipe Lara

    Created by Spaghettifier (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

    Spaghettifier (talk) 21:06, 10 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    A Modern Mephistopheles

    • Source: Cheney, Edna Dow (2010). Louisa May Alcott: Her Life, Letters, and Journals. Carlisle, Massachussetts, USA: Applewood Books. ISBN 978-1-4290-4460-8. “Went for some weeks to the Bellevue, and wrote ‘A Modern Mephistopheles’ for the No Name Series. It has been simmering ever since I read Faust last year. Enjoyed doing it, being tired of providing moral pap for the young.” (Page 296)
    Sanderson, Rena (1991). "A Modern Mephistopheles: Louisa May Alcott's Exorcism of Patriarchy". American Transcendental Quarterly. 5 (1): 41–55. ProQuest 1302638905. “After the book’s completion, Alcott commented in her journal that she ‘enjoyed doing it, being tired of providing moral pap for the young.’” (Page 41)
      • ALT1: ... that Louisa May Alcott wrote A Modern Mephistopheles as part of an anonymous series in which readers were meant to guess the author? Source: Cheney, Edna Dow (2010). Louisa May Alcott: Her Life, Letters, and Journals. Carlisle, Massachussetts, USA: Applewood Books. ISBN 978-1-4290-4460-8. “‘A Modern Mephistopheles’ was written among the earlier volumes of the No Name Series, when the chief idea of the authors was to puzzle their readers by disguising their style as much as possible, that they might enjoy the guessing and criticism as each novel appeared. This book was very successful in preserving its incognito; and many persons still insist that it could not have been written by the author of ‘Little Women.’” (Cheney 379, quoting Louisa May Alcott)
      • Reviewed:
      • Comment: Link for Cheney: https://books.google.com/books?id=wu4x7eZ2IccC. Link for Sanderson: https://www.proquest.com/docview/1302638905 (may require a subscription)
    Created by Heidi Pusey BYU (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Heidi Pusey BYU (talk) 18:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Florida Hospital Oceanside

    Created by Catfurball (talk).

    Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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    Catfurball (talk) 15:57, 8 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Gingras (instrument)

    Created by Elias Ziade (talk).

    Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 37 past nominations.

    Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

    el.ziade (talkallam) 12:59, 8 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: An interesting article on a little-known ancient instrument. The date of creation, length and references are correct (AGF on offline sources), and the qpq has been done. The article relies heavily on primary sources, but these are only quoted, not interpreted, so that's good. We have a staggering 49% earwigs score, but this is due to the copied fragment. Anyway, I think that you should mention who is the translator of these fragments, before I declare the article plagiarism free. The phrase about "Athenian banquets" is repeated, one of the two occurrences should be paraphrased. The hook is cited, but is rather long, I think it should be shortened and - above all - the language should be made more fluid. Regarding the "surviving ancient snippets", I understand what you mean, but it should be better explained for the reader: adding some context would help. Cheers, Alex2006 (talk) 07:08, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi @Alessandro57: thanks for the review. I have added both translators and the date of publication of the Atheneus translations, and removed the redundancy you pointed out. i have also added two alternative hooks. I will also try to introduce the "snippets" section.el.ziade (talkallam) 10:12, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Alessandro57: Can you recheck?

    RuPaul's Drag Race Live!

    Reviewed: Kortnei Johnson.

    5x expanded by JuanGLP (talk).

    Number of QPQs required: One. Nominator has seven past nominations.

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    JuanGLP (talk/contribs) 02:02, 8 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on May 9[edit]

    Jude McAtamney

    Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 182 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:38, 16 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Marie Catharine Neal

    • ... that in 1948, Marie Catharine Neal, an expert on Hawaiian plants, authored the acclaimed book In Gardens of Hawaii, which described over 2,000 species with detailed scientific information and illustrations? Source: Peterson, Barbara Bennett (February 2000). "Neal, Marie Catherine". American National Biography. New York: Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/anb/9780198606697.article.2001406. (subscription required) (freely accessible via WP Library)
      • Reviewed:
      • Comment: QPQ will be done promptly.
    Created by Xoak (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

    X (talk) 23:56, 15 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Peter Bowden

    • Source: [27] & [28] & [29] (the last two verify that Bowden is in the NFL and that Sanborn is in the NFL)
    Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 181 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:55, 15 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Let me know if the hook is understandable or if it needs to be reworded. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:31, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Kenneth Odumegwu

    Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 180 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:46, 15 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • article is long enough, new enough and within policy. Hook is short enough and interesting (note, linked NFL in the hook). Awaiting QPQ BeanieFan11. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:25, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Circle Tower

    Circle Tower
    Circle Tower
    • ... that the Circle Tower (pictured) in Indianapolis, Indiana is an art-deco building which features ziggurat-like upper floors?
    Created by Indiana6724 (talk) and Bruxton (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 147 past nominations.

    Bruxton (talk) 21:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Fourth All-Russian Congress of the Party of Left Socialist-Revolutionaries (internationalists)

    • Source: Анна Владимировна Сыченкова. Отечественная историография партии левых социалистов-революционеров (интернационалистов). Изд-во Казанский государственный технический университет, 2006. pp. 18-19
    Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 383 past nominations.

    Soman (talk) 11:12, 10 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    AdventHealth North Pinellas

    • Reviewed:
    Created by Catfurball (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Catfurball (talk) 23:59, 9 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Current nominations[edit]

    Articles created/expanded on May 10[edit]

    Han Bong-zin

    • Source: Sunday Mirror ("The outstanding North Korean footballer is ... Han Bong Jin [a variation of Han Bong-zin]. Pyongyang (The Capital) Radio describes the winger modestly: 'A footballer who overshadows the world-renowned Brazilian player [Pelé]'") / Grimsby Evening Telegraph ("Han Bong Zin is the man described by Pyongyang Radio as 'better than Pele'")
    • ALT1: ... that footballer Han Bong-zin was alleged to "overshadow" Pelé? Source: same
    • ALT2: ... that the North Korean government claimed footballer Han Bong-zin was better than Pelé? Source: same
    • ALT3: ... that the North Korean state-run media claimed footballer Han Bong-zin was better than Pelé? Source: same
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/pending
    • Comment: Regarding ALT2/ALT3: the sources say that it was "Pyongyang Radio". That sounds like a government/state-run program, especially since, if I remember right, the only media in North Korea is state-owned. Let me know about your thoughts on whether it is correct to describe it as the NK government/state making the claims.
    Converted from a redirect by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 183 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:13, 17 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Mary Ann Wells

    Mary Ann Wells
    Mary Ann Wells
    Created by Xoak (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

    X (talk) 23:39, 15 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Party of Revolutionary Communism, Vladimir Zitta, Grigorii Nikolaevich Maksimov, Evgenia Semenovskaya

    • Source: Память, Issue 3. Khronika Press, 1980. p. 384
    5x expanded by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 386 past nominations.

    Soman (talk) 21:37, 15 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Ōsakishimojima

    The port of Mitarai, Ōsakishimojima
    The port of Mitarai, Ōsakishimojima
    • Source: Richie, D.; Midorikawa, Y. (2015). The Inland Sea. Stone Bridge Press. p. 190. ISBN 978-1-61172-916-0. Retrieved 2024-05-12. "The old town of Mitarai lies at the eastern tip of the island of Osakishimojima [...] an entire teahouse, the Waka Ebisu-ya, the largest chaya in the Inland Sea, which in its time housed a hundred girls, where Hosokawa, the daimyo of Kumamoto, spent a thousand gold pieces in one night"
    Created by Jpatokal (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

    Jpatokal (talk) 05:34, 13 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • I'll take a look. Schwede66 23:13, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Article is new and neutral. Earwig is clean. It's technically long enough at 1700 kB of prose, but it is marked with a stub tag and I consider that the correct assessment as it does feel stubby. DYK does not run stubs, though. The article uses bare URLs and that's not good enough for DYK. There are several unreferenced paragraphs and that's a showstopper. Hook fact is referenced, checks out, and is interesting. The photo is freely licensed but not overly interesting. Overall, this feels like a work in progress; it's nowhere near ready for DYK in its current state. Schwede66 23:33, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Manganese nitride

    • Source: Lihl, Franz; Ettmayer, Peter; Kutzelnigg, Alfred (1962). "Beitrag zum System Mangan-Stickstoff" [Report on the manganese-nitrogen system]. Zeitschrift für Metallkunde (in German). 53 (11). DeGruyter: 715. doi:10.1515/ijmr-1962-531104; also comparison between Prelinger, Otto (10 May 1894). "Über Stickstoffverbindungen des Mangans" [On the nitrogen compounds of manganese] (PDF). Monatshefte für Chemie und verwandte Teile anderer Wissenschaften (in German): 391–401 and Mekata Mamoru; Haruna Junsuke; Takaki Hideo (July 1968) [29 Jan 1968]. "Neutron diffraction study of antiferromagnetic Mn2N". Journal of the Physical Society of Japan. 23 (1): 234–238. doi:10.1143/JPSJ.25.234.
    Converted from a redirect by Bernanke's Crossbow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Bernanke's Crossbow (talk) 23:41, 10 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Not a review, but ALT0 is by far the best hook here, and I'd be inclined to strike the others.--Launchballer 14:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Bjarne Store-Jakobsen

    Created by Ornithoptera (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 31 past nominations.

    Ornithoptera (talk) 19:24, 10 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Shushu/Tong

    • ... that Shushu/Tong is a brand that creates fashion collections inspired by magical girl anime?
    Created by Luiysia (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Luiysia (talk) 17:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: The article is well-written and well-sourced. Just two small recommendations: I think Puella Magi Madoka Magica and Cardcaptor Sakura can be mentioned in the hook to make it more interesting, but that's up to you. If you want to retain the current hook, then I think the term "magical girl anime" should be linked. Also, I noticed that Paper Mag was linked in one of the sources, but the other websites in the sources were left in black. It may be worth considering consistency by either linking all the websites or not linking them at all. Prince of EreborThe Book of Mazarbul 11:08, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Suicide of Fat Cat

    The Shibanpo Yangtze River Bridge where Fat Cat jumped off.
    The Shibanpo Yangtze River Bridge where Fat Cat jumped off.
    Created by TheGreatPeng (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    TheGreatPeng (talk) 15:09, 10 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Comment: I would suggest having some alternatives. ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 15:30, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I thoroughly enjoyed reading this article, although not quite enough to violate my policy of doing my QPQs oldest first. I will say that this article is being edited a lot and is probably not stable. For now, I recommend ALT0a: ... that McDonald's Vietnam was boycotted after appropriating a slogan by a recently deceased Chinese gamer?--Launchballer 15:47, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • ALT1: ...that a Chinese gamer named Fat Cat tragically died by suicide after transferring a large sum of money to his girlfriend, who wished to end their relationship? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheGreatPeng (talkcontribs)
    I'd lose 'tragically' for concision, but I'll let a reviewer make that choice. Full review needed.--Launchballer 18:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hooks must not contain redirects or contractions, although to be fair that's probably not far off the hook I would have suggested. For concision, I suggest ALT2a: ... that when people ordered fast food take-out to commemorate Fat Cat's suicide, multiple restaurants delivered empty packages?--Launchballer 08:20, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I recommend ALT0a with image. TheGreatPeng (talk) 08:45, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on May 11[edit]

    Ang Ating Musika

    Improved to Good Article status by Pseud 14 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 38 past nominations.

    Pseud 14 (talk) 15:20, 15 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Eddie Halliwell

    Created by ResonantDistortion (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

    ResonantDistortion 23:24, 11 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on May 12[edit]

    Grace A. Johnson

    Created by Xoak (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

    X (talk) 22:15, 15 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Comment: QPQ will be done promptly Done.X (talk) 22:28, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    References

    1. ^ Berenson 2020.

    Phenotypic disparity

    morphological variety among birds and mammals.
    morphological variety among birds and mammals.
    • Source: Minelli, Alessandro (2019). Biodiversity, disparity and evolvability: "In terms of species number, birds are more diverse than mammals (some 10,000 vs. ca. 5600 extant species worldwide), but are instead quite more uniform in terms of morphology, reproductive biology and developmental schedules."
    • Reviewed: I have less than 5 past nominations.
    Moved to mainspace by Interaccoonale (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    ——🦝 The Interaccoonale Will be the raccoon race (talkcontribs) 07:21, 14 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Jugando a Que No Pasa Nada

    Converted from a redirect by Floppykart (talk) (nominated by Pollosito (talk)). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Santi (talk) 22:04, 12 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Not a review, more for your information than anything else. There is no criterion that says the nominator should be the creator, but if you're asserting that it meets all DYK criteria, then it's on you to make sure that it does.--Launchballer 20:51, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    IEEE Symposium on Security and Privacy

    5x expanded by Sohom Datta (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

    sohom@enwiki 18:16, 12 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Interstate 85 in North Carolina

    • ... that I-85 switches directions from milemarker 96 to 102 in Davidson County?
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: You're gonna have to zoom at least 75% into the map image to see the red line, which is I-85.
    Improved to Good Article status by NoobThreePointOh (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    NoobThreePointOh (talk) 17:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • It's not immediately obvious what you're talking about, and you should make it clear where this "Davidson County" place is for people who won't realize it's in North Carolina, USA. So ...
    ALT1: ... that for six miles (9.6 km) in Davidson County, North Carolina, traffic on I-85 drives on the left?
    I also wonder if you were able to find any explanation for this in your research. I think it's been noted elsewhere as the only significant place in the US with LHT. And maybe we should put that in the intro. Daniel Case (talk) 05:17, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hmmm... I suppose that works. I'm just a little unsure about what hook exactly to choose. Yeah, I'll probably place it in the intro. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 09:12, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Lillie Shockney

    • ... that Lillie Shockney is a co-founder of the Academy of Oncology Nurse & Patient Navigators?
    Moved to mainspace by Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 81 past nominations.

    Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 17:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Vinland Saga (TV series)

    • ... that the 3D CGI animation of Vinland Saga was inspired by the work of Shūhei Yabuta in Attack on Titan and Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress?
    • ALT1: ... that the Vinland Saga anime series took liberties from the manga to properly show Thorfinn's transformation into a Viking as new scenes were added? Source: [2]
    • ALT2: ... that for the second season of Vinland Saga there was a proper attempt to humanize the slave Thorfinn in contrast to the benevolent owner Ketil who becomes more violent the more he appears? Source: [3]
    • Reviewed:
    Created by Tintor2 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.

    Tintor2 (talk) 16:04, 12 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    References

    1. ^ "Creators Interviews Series #04 – Shūhei Yabuta". Prezzee. Archived from the original on January 13, 2021. Retrieved June 17, 2023.
    2. ^ Cardine, Kyle (August 9, 2022). "INTERVIEW: VINLAND SAGA Creator, Staff on Returning to the Viking Epic for Season 2". Crunchyroll. Archived from the original on October 31, 2022. Retrieved June 17, 2023.
    3. ^ Campbell, Neysha (June 16, 2023). "The Brilliant Minds Behind VINLAND SAGA Season 2". Anime News Network. Archived from the original on 2023-06-16. Retrieved June 17, 2023.

    Articles created/expanded on May 13[edit]

    Devizes Plot

    Moved to mainspace by Pahunkat (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Pahunkat (talk) 20:49, 15 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Episode 8851

    • ... that Episode 8851 of the Australian soap opera Neighbours only focuses on one storyline and features no opening credits?
    Created by JuneGloom07 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 91 past nominations.

    JuneGloom07 Talk 01:28, 15 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Caitlyn Wurzburger

    Caitlyn Wurzburger
    Caitlyn Wurzburger
    • ... that lacrosse player Caitlyn Wurzburger (pictured) committed to a college program at the age of 14?
    Created by Hameltion (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 56 past nominations.

    Hameltion (talk | contribs) 18:36, 14 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on May 14[edit]

    Silence Is Loud

    5x expanded by Launchballer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 229 past nominations.

    Launchballer 23:09, 14 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Maud Morgan (harpist)

    Maud Morgan c. 1893
    Maud Morgan c. 1893
    Created by Xoak (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

    X (talk) 21:00, 14 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • I'm afraid that that QPQ does not count, as a previous full review had already been conducted.--Launchballer 21:31, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, okay. I'll review another in a few days. @Launchballer:, I hope this one counts? X (talk) 21:38, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Full review needed.--Launchballer 09:20, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Atavista

    • ... that prior to its 2024 release, a track on the album Atavista could be heard in a 2019 Google Pixel ad?
    Created by JayceFey (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    JayceFey (talk) 14:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Hi JayceFey! Just a small recommendation: While I am aware that Track listing and Personnel sections are generally citation-free, the final sentence of the Background section that mentions the absence of three tracks in the previous albums lacks a citation. It may have been intended as an extension of the primary source from the previous album, but I would advise citing it with a secondary source if possible. The hook is interesting. Second DYK nomination so QPQ-free. Earwig's Detector shows a 4.8% similarity, but it's not plagiarism after double checking. The article is well-written overall. Prince of EreborThe Book of Mazarbul 11:00, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Prince of Erebor! Has the issue been resolved? I added a citation to the section you mentioned. JayceFey (talk) 15:06, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Satin berrypecker

    Adult male satin berrypecker
    Adult male satin berrypecker
    • Source: Kirwan, Guy M. (2021-08-18). Billerman, Shawn M.; Keeney, Brooke K.; Rodewald, Paul G.; Schulenberg, Thomas S. (eds.). "Satin Berrypecker (Melanocharis citreola)". Birds of the World. Cornell Lab of Ornithology. doi:10.2173/bow.satber1.01.
    • ALT1: ... that although specimens of the satin berrypecker (male pictured) were first collected in 2014, the species may have been observed as early as 1983? Source: Kirwan, Guy M. (2021-08-18). Billerman, Shawn M.; Keeney, Brooke K.; Rodewald, Paul G.; Schulenberg, Thomas S. (eds.). "Satin Berrypecker (Melanocharis citreola)". Birds of the World. Cornell Lab of Ornithology. doi:10.2173/bow.satber1.01.
    • ALT2: ... that the satin berrypecker (male pictured) is only the second species of bird to be described from New Guinea in the last 80 years? Source: Kirwan, Guy M. (2021-08-18). Billerman, Shawn M.; Keeney, Brooke K.; Rodewald, Paul G.; Schulenberg, Thomas S. (eds.). "Satin Berrypecker (Melanocharis citreola)". Birds of the World. Cornell Lab of Ornithology. doi:10.2173/bow.satber1.01.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Giant panda
    5x expanded by AryKun (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 32 past nominations.

    AryKun (talk) 13:15, 14 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Saleh Manaf

    Created by Jeromi Mikhael (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 64 past nominations.

    Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 12:00, 14 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on May 15[edit]

    Eurovision Song Contest 1974

    Improved to Good Article status by Sims2aholic8 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.

    Sims2aholic8 (talk) 14:24, 16 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Utter (horse)

    • ... that the police horse Utter served with the Stockholm police for over 23 years, participating in 515 changings of the Royal Guards?
    • Source: "Utter köptes av Stockholmspolisen 1978 [...] I september 2002 pensionerades han från polisen" Dagens Nyheter 2005-04-14. p. 19
    "Utter eskorterade 515 högvakter" Barometern OT 2021-11-01 [31]
      • Reviewed:
    Created by AlexandraAVX (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    AlexandraAVX (talk) 20:12, 15 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Bernard Mellor

    Created by Generalissima (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 48 past nominations.

    Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 16:55, 15 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on May 16[edit]

    Sea of Voices

    • ALT1: ... that despite the single "Sea of Voices" being released just before the 86th Academy Awards, it became a trending topic on Twitter during the event? Source: ibid.
    • Reviewed: [[]]
    • Comment: This is my final QPQ-exempt nomination.
    Improved to Good Article status by TechnoSquirrel69 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 00:39, 17 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Shagdarjavin Natsagdorj

    • ... that Shagdarjavin Natsagdorj was appointed director of the Institute of History at the Mongolian Academy of Sciences just two years after being accepted as an apprentice there?
    Created by AirshipJungleman29 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 19 past nominations.

    ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:38, 17 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Haikyu!! The Dumpster Battle

    • Reviewed:
    Created by NinetyNineDragon (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    NinetyNineDragon (talk) 16:22, 16 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    IBM Advanced Computer Systems project

    Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 198 past nominations.

    Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:20, 16 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Taste of Summer

    Spectators follow the 77th Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race
    Spectators follow the 77th Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race
    • ... that there is a seasonal festival in Tasmania that has received yachties from all around the world for the New Year's celebrations for more than 30 years?
    • Source: Hall, C. Michael (2008-09-10). Food and Wine Festivals and Events Around the World (1 ed.). Routledge. pp. 113–130. doi:10.4324/9780080887951. ISBN 978-0-08-088795-1.
    • Reviewed:
    Created by Lautreca11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

    Lautreca11 (talk) 10:15, 16 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Baubau

    • ... that Baubau city filed two different budgets at the same time, resulting it to lose their chance at becoming capital of Southeast Sulawesi? Source: "Beberapa sebab terpilihnya Kota Kendari sebagai Ibukota Provinsi Sulawesi Tenggara di antaranyakalah jumlah suara pada saat pemilihan untuk penentuan ibukota. Selain itu,terjadi malbirokrasi di mana ada dinas di Kota Baubau yang mengajukan anggaran dua versi dan yang mengajukan dua orang, sehingga terjadi dualisme dalam satu dinas. Akibatnya,kekacauan dalam sistem birokrasi dan tata pemerintahan sangat mungkin terjadi jika Kota Baubau menjadi ibukota provinsi. Oleh karena itu, Mendagri dan Otonomi Daerah dalam keputusannya mengesahkan Kota Kendari sebagai Ibukota Provinsi Sulawesi Tenggara." Rabani, L. O., Purwanto, B., & Margana, S. (2020). Politik dan Ekonomi di Dua Kota: Baubau dan Kendari pada tahun 1950an–1960an. MOZAIK HUMANIORA, 20(1), 39–56. https://doi.org/10.20473/mozaik.v20i1.15746
    5x expanded by Nyanardsan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 27 past nominations.

    Nyanardsan (talk) 01:44, 16 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Not a review, but special occasion requests for more than six weeks require consensus at WT:DYK. I'd also expect a more merciless prepbuilder to truncate ALT0 at 'time'.--Launchballer 18:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on May 17[edit]

    Friendly Father

    • ... that the North Korean propaganda song "Friendly Father" went viral on Tik Tok following its release, with some users comparing it to the songs of Swedish supergroup ABBA?
    • Source: Mao, Frances (3 May 2024). "TikTok loves North Korea's latest propaganda bop. Why?". BBC. Retrieved 11 May 2024. When North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un released his latest song two weeks ago, surely he couldn't have foreseen it becoming a hit on TikTok. But the propaganda tune has gone viral online with Gen Z users bopping around to the synthy-electro pop. ... But there is a certain Soviet-era tinge to it; Gen Z users describe it as 'Abba-coded', a reference to the Swedish superband.
    Created by Yue (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

    Yue🌙 00:55, 17 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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